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1947 the Army Air Forces has announced

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that applying this has been found and is

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now in the possession of the army

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game is rigs change the game game

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changer I occasionally think how quickly

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Jimmy judge on The Game Changer Network

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spoke radio for the masses

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uh yeah man how you doing today is

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listening all around the world all

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across the United States hither and

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tither to and fro back and forth up and

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this is Fade to block for kjcr the game

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changer and NX Networks

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race Hobbs I am your host Jimmy Church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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all right I've been waiting for tonight

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because we welcome very special guests

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Roy thinnes

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of the Invaders joins us and also

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Don Schmidt is here

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incredible incredible Roy Dennis and Don

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Schmidt are with us tonight

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tomorrow night

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Elizabeth Hoekstra

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ah I've been grounding

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do you know what grounding is well

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tomorrow night you're gonna find out

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grounding

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talking to Elizabeth about grounding and

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she's got a new book coming out and I

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out tomorrow night all right Elizabeth

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hoxtra is here and then Thursday night

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get everything cracking and uh let's

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just go down the list I'm very excited

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uh to be hosting an emceeing once again

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the conscious life Expo this February

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consciouslifeexpo.com and check

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everything out and we have only got

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for the luncheon all right now I'm going

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to be hosting this luncheon with a bunch

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going and you want to go to this

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the links are below the schedule is up

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vendor Hall and everything else will

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life expo.com and then two weeks after

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this is a live one-day media event

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podcast Awards film Awards media Awards

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go you know you want to be accepted

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cruise all right now the Links for that

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are below I know you want to go on a

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cruising the Nile and I gotta tell you I

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2023. the links for everything that I'm

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doing now uh for 2023 are below

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stacking up all right I've got stuff

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scheduled for every single month next

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year in 2023 and we're already in

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2023 is here okay so thanks for

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any questions or comments during the

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show hashtag f2bq all right big

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announcement today

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the Artemis 4 Mission right now Artemis

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Artemis four mission number four they've

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station around the Moon NASA will also

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attempt to land another crew right there

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on the moon for the second time this

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decade two lunar missions are now

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planned a feat the space agency had

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practical we can't really pull it off we

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can't go up and launch in these two

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components of the space station and put

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people on the moon at the same time but

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will be the second moon landing this

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decade Artemis 4 will launch in about

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well the meteor that struck Mars last

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Christmas Eve created a crater

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492 feet across and 70 feet deep sending

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debris 23 miles away what is surprising

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in Earth's much thicker atmosphere the

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crater exposed boulder-sized chunks of

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underground ice found much closer to the

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Mars equator than ever before big news

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there's water on Mars there's water all

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over Mars all right now this this story

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broke a couple of weeks ago

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and it's starting to sink in

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because archaeologists have Unearthed

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the Thor's hammer

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amulet now it's about this big right

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it's about that big but it's

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it's Thor's hammer

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it's really cool they say it's a one of

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its kind that's it in yesby in South

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Western Sweden's Holland Province the

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hammer was discovered near a future

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Housing Development site previous

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excavations at the site uncovered

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Neolithic and Iron Age artifacts but

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this is the first Viking era artifact

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discovered there it's also the first

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Thor's hammer amulet to be discovered in

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Holland not Holland

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Holland with an a little Thor's hammer

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day in history 1952.

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the United States

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detonates the world's first

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thermonuclear weapon

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the hydrogen bomb they did it on in a

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wet talk a toll in the Pacific

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incredible

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Russians followed up with their own

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in 2011 now I vetted this I saw the

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pictures I read all of the news uh uh

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press releases on this this is an

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incredible story ah it's a fader fact

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in 2011

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after being lost at sea

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for 33 days

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53 years old

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finally washed ashore

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believed to have drowned at Sea about 50

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had also washed up on the same island

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it's the craziest story ever you gotta

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go look at the pictures

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Gilligan's Island but for real wrong way

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Feldman all right

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tonight very special guest Roy thinnes

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is with us of the Invaders

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joins us with very special guest host

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Tonight Don Schmidt Don Schmidt is also

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with us at the bottom of the hour

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tomorrow night Elizabeth Hoekstra is

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here we're going to be talking about

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grounding she's got a new book coming

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out about grounding what is grounding

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well it's changed my life so we're going

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to talk about all of that tomorrow night

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I'm excited to share this uh with all of

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you and uh there you go Thursday is

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another fader night with open lines all

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night long I was um

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I was texting uh with uh Billy Carson

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yesterday we were talking about

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grounding and I said man I found the

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secret to grounding

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it's grounding

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but with 1200 thread count

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Egyptian cotton sheets

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changer

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I'm telling you right now

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dreams

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it's incredible we'll be talking about

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all of that tomorrow night with

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Elizabeth and again Thursday night's

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another fader night with open lines all

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night long now

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I am going to hit this River Moon coffee

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rivermoonwellness.com

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blend

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yep yep or you can go to the Amazon

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store you can just search Fade to Black

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Blend Coffee right there just do it and

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uh it'll pop right up

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if you're uh an Amazon what do they call

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it Amazon Prime

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Amazon Prime member free shipping there

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you go all right

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all right let me hit this coffee

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I normally don't talk about this stuff

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I spoke with

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and uh my good friend Billy over there

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uh is one of the department heads and

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Billy I've known since we were kids

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remember

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um uh I told you that story about the

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Gin Blossoms and we were in the studio

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in Tempe

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it was one of the craziest moments

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of uh my entire life Billy who is now at

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Fender guitars back then he worked uh

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for the Gin Blossoms and the Gin

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Blossoms were recording their second

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album I think it was

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and uh and they were writing songs for

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it and doing pre-production and and uh

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Billy and I were over at their studio

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recording them and we were recording

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backup vocals

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and uh

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the reason why I bring this up is

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because that's who I spoke to today

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right in there 96 95 I'm going 95. and

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uh we're in the control room there's

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glass in front of us and you know we got

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the uh the sound board in front of us

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and

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entire building shook like an earthquake

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what we stopped and we're we were

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recording right we stopped the recorders

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and uh the bass player I think his

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name's Bill he's out there he's like

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what we go out the the door and this car

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had crashed into the studio

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and we we walked outside

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and there were bricks

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everywhere drove through a cinder block

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wall then hit the wall to the studio

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just and it was it was surreal and I

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just remember Billy and I uh walking

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through the stuff and you know making

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sure everybody's okay the police came

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and all that stuff that that happened

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later but I just looked at Billy

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and uh I'm like dude every time I'm

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around you

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crazy stuff man just crazy stuff and and

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Billy and I have got a lot of stories

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we've known each other uh for for almost

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30 years so today

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they're sending me something when

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they're sending me a couple of some

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things but

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I think it's going to be here soon like

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maybe this weekend so on Monday

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yeah I might I might actually show

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something off on camera and uh

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I just want to thank Billy right now uh

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so anyway uh where was I I just wanted

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to share that it's it's just so funny

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talking talking to Billy today and I

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just wanted to share that story with you

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about the uh the car crashing into the

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Gin Blossom studio in Tempe Arizona

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while we were cutting back a vocals all

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right

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tonight

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Rory Fitness is with us of the Invaders

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and I have watched

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both seasons of the original series The

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Invaders countless times countless times

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and I uh uh man videotape borrowed

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videotapes

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um a couple of years ago I got the uh

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the DVDs

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uh of uh the the remastered versions of

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it and before that it was uh you know

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available on the internet and for a

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minute it was streaming and I I I just

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was so excited I went back and

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re-watched and watched and

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I've talked about it so much on this

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show

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and on this program over the years

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bringing it up it's because

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there was

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so many groundbreaking moments uh in the

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series it was way way way way ahead of

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its time and while I was doing UFO

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research and I'm looking at you know old

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uh photographs and I'm reading stories

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and and and and and contact uh events

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and and and and things like that

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and so you go eyewitness testimony and

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as you're collecting this kind of uh

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information in your researching

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um and I mean that you know I was I was

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fairly young and then you go and you

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watch the Invaders now I remember when

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it first aired by the way

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um

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didn't quite get the impact you know I

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was a little too young

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um at the time

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but it was you go back after doing

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research and then you see the opening uh

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segment

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and you see the choice

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of The Craft

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that these et's aliens are traveling to

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Earth on and it reminds you of a few

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things

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um adamski

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hanabu

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yep uh you see the bottom of the craft

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uh which has been in a few different

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photographs historically speaking over

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the years and so you see that and then

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it's the storyline

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that was uh

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that was the Invaders

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and

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considering Where We Are

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right now today with UFOs and uaps and

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this is for especially for me for the

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last 10 years

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um now I look back

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and I think

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they got it right

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the Invaders got it right

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it only lasted for two seasons

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they got it right well most of it

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get it all right

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but it makes me

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uh now Roy's gonna be on with us tonight

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and I'm going to ask him I'm going to do

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everything I can to avoid being a fanboy

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but

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um

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where did they get the story lines from

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it's very uh and and and what the

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Invaders is about

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right E.T arrives on Earth

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they look like us they have the ability

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to fold into society run corporations or

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in companies run towns run law

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enforcement you know and and it's out of

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00:26:23,649 --> 00:26:20,039
your control and you don't know you you

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00:26:27,890 --> 00:26:23,659
you you you can't you can't necessarily

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see that they are ET or aliens I don't

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want to give anything away if you

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haven't seen the series uh then then go

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00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:35,000
and watch it but

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00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:37,260
how much

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00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:40,799
of this do we discuss today

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right and to have in

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1967. now in 1967 Betty and Barney Hill

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00:26:54,169 --> 00:26:52,440
1961 George adamski George Van Tassel

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1950s

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okay Roswell 1947 but in 1967 nobody

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00:27:03,230 --> 00:27:00,659
knew about Roswell

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00:27:05,870 --> 00:27:03,240
um a Malmstrom Air Force Base that

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00:27:08,570 --> 00:27:05,880
didn't come out for a few years and that

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00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:08,580
was just rumors right and that didn't

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00:27:13,130 --> 00:27:11,100
really hit the ground running until 1971

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00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:13,140
1972 and it never really made it

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mainstream until recently

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00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:22,559
so in 1967 what was all of this based on

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00:27:28,190 --> 00:27:25,200
was there influence where did they get

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00:27:33,470 --> 00:27:28,200
the story from where did they get the

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00:27:34,250 --> 00:27:33,480
details from it was way way ahead of its

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00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:34,260
time

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00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:37,620
so with that I want to share something

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00:27:41,930 --> 00:27:39,600
with you all right

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00:27:44,330 --> 00:27:41,940
this

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00:27:46,850 --> 00:27:44,340
is the original

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00:28:14,169 --> 00:27:46,860
opening credits

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00:28:20,570 --> 00:28:16,909
have talked about Roy have talked about

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00:28:23,330 --> 00:28:20,580
the impact of the Invaders and and

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00:28:25,690 --> 00:28:23,340
here's the thing two seasons 1967 and

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00:28:28,970 --> 00:28:25,700
1968

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what nobody knew and I'm gonna ask Roy

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00:28:35,649 --> 00:28:31,740
about this tonight nobody knew then

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00:28:39,950 --> 00:28:35,659
about the impact that this TV series

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00:28:43,010 --> 00:28:39,960
would have on pop culture and here we

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00:28:46,370 --> 00:28:43,020
are almost 50 years later still

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00:28:50,269 --> 00:28:46,380
celebrating this show uh the cult status

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00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:50,279
that the Invaders has uh attained over

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00:28:58,130 --> 00:28:54,000
the years and is it its impact cannot be

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00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:58,140
measured now Roy's career uh you can go

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00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:00,960
to IMDb and you can see everything that

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00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:04,559
he has done all right he is in a very

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00:29:12,110 --> 00:29:07,679
accomplished actor but did he know

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00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:12,120
but he what he was going to do in 1967

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00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:15,840
and 1968 and what this series would mean

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00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:17,520
to the world tonight we're going to do

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all of that this is Fade to Black I am

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your host Jimmy Church

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00:29:27,889 --> 00:29:25,140
big night tonight on the show tomorrow

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00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:27,899
night Elizabeth Hoekstra is with us

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we're going to be talking about

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grounding

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Thursday night is another fader night

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with open lines all night long

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Jimmy church I'll be right back after

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father's radio show on the game changer

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hi this is Rob Reiner from Anvil and

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you're listening to Jimmy

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[Music]

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foreign

572
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welcome back

573
00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:45,720
this is Fade to Black I'm The Game

574
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Changer and unex networks I'm Yours

575
00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:50,820
Jimmy church tonight Rory thinnes

576
00:34:57,650 --> 00:34:55,020
star of 1967 and 1968's hit TV series

577
00:34:59,810 --> 00:34:57,660
The Invaders

578
00:35:02,930 --> 00:34:59,820
joins us tonight with a special co-host

579
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:02,940
Don Schmidt who will be joining us

580
00:35:09,530 --> 00:35:05,040
now a little bit about Roy his first

581
00:35:12,829 --> 00:35:09,540
prime time role was a fist of five an

582
00:35:15,470 --> 00:35:12,839
episode of The Untouchables as a brother

583
00:35:18,290 --> 00:35:15,480
of an ex-policeman played by Lee Marvin

584
00:35:20,750 --> 00:35:18,300
later that year he appeared on Gunsmoke

585
00:35:23,930 --> 00:35:20,760
in the episode false front he appeared

586
00:35:27,050 --> 00:35:23,940
on General Hospital from 1963 to 1965

587
00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:27,060
and in 1964 he guessed it twice of the

588
00:35:33,530 --> 00:35:30,180
CBS drama the reporter Roy then

589
00:35:35,470 --> 00:35:33,540
co-starred on ABC's the long hot summer

590
00:35:39,410 --> 00:35:35,480
but then it happened

591
00:35:42,109 --> 00:35:39,420
1967 and 1968 Roy starred in the

592
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:42,119
Invaders a TV series in which he

593
00:35:47,210 --> 00:35:44,880
accidentally Witnesses the arrival of

594
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:47,220
aliens from another planet the series

595
00:35:53,089 --> 00:35:49,920
became a cult classic leading to other

596
00:35:55,069 --> 00:35:53,099
aliens versus earthlings films and TV

597
00:35:59,089 --> 00:35:55,079
shows countless

598
00:36:02,990 --> 00:35:59,099
in in 2004 TV Guide placed his character

599
00:36:06,410 --> 00:36:03,000
David Vincent at number six on its 25

600
00:36:10,430 --> 00:36:06,420
greatest sci-fi Legends list

601
00:36:12,770 --> 00:36:10,440
now to see the complete Roy TV and film

602
00:36:16,670 --> 00:36:12,780
list and everything else just visited

603
00:36:19,370 --> 00:36:16,680
his IMDb page I've got it in the links

604
00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:19,380
below I've got it on social media and

605
00:36:24,109 --> 00:36:22,440
also over on our website but

606
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:24,119
I can't leave out

607
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:26,160
The Sopranos

608
00:36:31,730 --> 00:36:29,359
he was also on the X-Files Law and Order

609
00:36:33,710 --> 00:36:31,740
and Oz

610
00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:33,720
I would like to welcome for the first

611
00:36:38,349 --> 00:36:36,060
time to fade to black Roy thinnes Roy

612
00:36:41,150 --> 00:36:38,359
good evening young man how you doing

613
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:41,160
thank you very much you brought back

614
00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:44,400
memories countless memories just going

615
00:36:49,490 --> 00:36:46,320
down that list

616
00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:49,500
and uh you know here here's the deal Roy

617
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:52,800
uh okay first uh before I bring in Don

618
00:37:00,109 --> 00:36:56,640
Schmidt I'm going to give you the First

619
00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:00,119
Time guest disclaimer okay which is this

620
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:03,180
Roy it's just you and I sitting on my

621
00:37:07,550 --> 00:37:05,040
couch having a conversation as friends

622
00:37:09,530 --> 00:37:07,560
and where that conversation starts it

623
00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:09,540
starts where it ends it ends but we're

624
00:37:15,470 --> 00:37:12,000
command as friends there you go it's a

625
00:37:19,130 --> 00:37:15,480
tradition around here Roy are you ready

626
00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:19,140
yes sir all right now um I've got uh

627
00:37:24,890 --> 00:37:22,260
let's let's bring in uh don Schmidt and

628
00:37:27,170 --> 00:37:24,900
uh hello Don say hi to Roy well hello

629
00:37:30,109 --> 00:37:27,180
again Roy you're done I'm so happy

630
00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:30,119
you're doing this this evening thank you

631
00:37:37,210 --> 00:37:34,740
now yeah and and and Don uh Don's gonna

632
00:37:40,849 --> 00:37:37,220
co-host because

633
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:40,859
he uh Roy many many years ago on this

634
00:37:47,569 --> 00:37:44,640
program uh I brought up the Invaders and

635
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:47,579
and now I'm gonna oh Roy and I go way

636
00:37:54,650 --> 00:37:51,839
back I was like what no way yeah and uh

637
00:37:58,190 --> 00:37:54,660
it's been a while uh putting this in in

638
00:38:01,609 --> 00:37:58,200
the works but uh now uh tonight it's

639
00:38:03,710 --> 00:38:01,619
happening so welcome Don is with us and

640
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:03,720
this is uh kind of where I I want to

641
00:38:07,490 --> 00:38:05,040
start off Roy

642
00:38:09,530 --> 00:38:07,500
um of course I want to talk about uh the

643
00:38:14,750 --> 00:38:09,540
history of the show and stuff but did

644
00:38:16,670 --> 00:38:14,760
you have any idea in 1967 the impact

645
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:16,680
that the series would have and that

646
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,680
nearly 50 years later we'd still be

647
00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:21,599
celebrating it and you'd be on the air

648
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:23,700
with me tonight

649
00:38:30,650 --> 00:38:28,320
thanks to God bless Quinn Martin right I

650
00:38:33,410 --> 00:38:30,660
had I made him wait forever for an

651
00:38:35,569 --> 00:38:33,420
answer would I do the Invaders

652
00:38:37,849 --> 00:38:35,579
and I didn't want to do science fiction

653
00:38:39,970 --> 00:38:37,859
because I saw what happened to many

654
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:39,980
people who did movies in science fiction

655
00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:44,160
and they just drifted off into only a

656
00:38:49,069 --> 00:38:47,040
science fiction subject you never saw

657
00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:49,079
him in any other kind of film

658
00:38:55,150 --> 00:38:51,540
and I didn't want that to happen

659
00:38:58,910 --> 00:38:55,160
and he called me into the office one day

660
00:39:00,770 --> 00:38:58,920
and uh he said I haven't heard from you

661
00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:00,780
he said you don't want to do science

662
00:39:05,450 --> 00:39:03,599
fiction do you and I said no sir I don't

663
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:05,460
and I'm sitting there looking at two

664
00:39:10,130 --> 00:39:07,920
writers well-known writers

665
00:39:13,490 --> 00:39:10,140
and they have in their lapse books that

666
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,500
I have read about you know UFOs and

667
00:39:18,109 --> 00:39:15,839
people who've had the experience

668
00:39:20,450 --> 00:39:18,119
and I'm thinking wow that's something

669
00:39:22,190 --> 00:39:20,460
and he said I'm not doing science

670
00:39:24,349 --> 00:39:22,200
fiction here I don't want to do science

671
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:24,359
fiction either he said this is going to

672
00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:27,359
be a study in paranoia

673
00:39:33,310 --> 00:39:30,420
and I said well you got me with that

674
00:39:38,210 --> 00:39:33,320
sentencer I'm your man

675
00:39:40,130 --> 00:39:38,220
yes here's and here's the other uh and I

676
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:40,140
want to spend some time on this uh

677
00:39:44,270 --> 00:39:41,040
tonight

678
00:39:46,810 --> 00:39:44,280
the subject of UFOs

679
00:39:50,990 --> 00:39:46,820
um and and what the Invaders ultimately

680
00:39:53,930 --> 00:39:51,000
uh became did you have an interest in in

681
00:39:56,030 --> 00:39:53,940
UFOs or ufology uh before your meeting

682
00:39:59,390 --> 00:39:56,040
with Quinn Martin

683
00:40:03,170 --> 00:39:59,400
it was uh yes it wasn't a deep interest

684
00:40:05,210 --> 00:40:03,180
but I was fascinated by the subject but

685
00:40:07,790 --> 00:40:05,220
I had been told by people who know a lot

686
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:07,800
better than I do that the government is

687
00:40:12,589 --> 00:40:09,359
just kind of floored a lot of

688
00:40:15,250 --> 00:40:12,599
information about UFOs and so we don't

689
00:40:18,770 --> 00:40:15,260
know what what's going on

690
00:40:20,930 --> 00:40:18,780
uh there's information that I thought

691
00:40:21,950 --> 00:40:20,940
would come to the fore because of the

692
00:40:24,410 --> 00:40:21,960
Invaders

693
00:40:27,770 --> 00:40:24,420
this study in paranoia is Quinn Martin

694
00:40:29,930 --> 00:40:27,780
called it would eventually open up some

695
00:40:31,730 --> 00:40:29,940
of those files that had been hidden for

696
00:40:34,370 --> 00:40:31,740
years

697
00:40:37,150 --> 00:40:34,380
let me tell you about Andy McIntyre

698
00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:37,160
Andrew McIntyre was our cinematographer

699
00:40:42,410 --> 00:40:39,900
and he's another one who convinced me

700
00:40:45,650 --> 00:40:42,420
this is where I belong

701
00:40:47,930 --> 00:40:45,660
he was a fighter pilot

702
00:40:51,310 --> 00:40:47,940
a bomber pilot

703
00:40:54,109 --> 00:40:51,320
and he said on all of our

704
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:54,119
forays into various areas there'd be

705
00:41:00,050 --> 00:40:56,400
eight or nine planes flying in formation

706
00:41:02,930 --> 00:41:00,060
to bomb a certain Target

707
00:41:04,670 --> 00:41:02,940
yet each pilot would call and say do you

708
00:41:06,349 --> 00:41:04,680
see what I see over here on the right

709
00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:06,359
wing

710
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:09,359
and they'd all confirm that they will

711
00:41:15,470 --> 00:41:13,200
being followed by disks they couldn't

712
00:41:18,589 --> 00:41:15,480
make out what they were

713
00:41:21,050 --> 00:41:18,599
but it was a formation of disks and once

714
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:21,060
they dropped the bombs the discs were

715
00:41:26,930 --> 00:41:24,240
had disappeared whoa

716
00:41:28,849 --> 00:41:26,940
now they were required by military law

717
00:41:31,370 --> 00:41:28,859
to

718
00:41:35,329 --> 00:41:31,380
discuss this and write all the reports

719
00:41:40,190 --> 00:41:38,030
and so for these many years Andrew

720
00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:40,200
McIntyre has carried the secret around

721
00:41:44,810 --> 00:41:41,460
with him

722
00:41:45,609 --> 00:41:44,820
and he devotes it to me

723
00:41:48,890 --> 00:41:45,619
um

724
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:48,900
I was deeply impressed

725
00:41:56,329 --> 00:41:52,560
and I knew that we were all let me tell

726
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:56,339
you this this is one show where whenever

727
00:42:01,730 --> 00:41:59,280
the new script came out you'd walk onto

728
00:42:04,010 --> 00:42:01,740
a set that usually was noisy with you

729
00:42:07,550 --> 00:42:04,020
know hammering and putting sets up Etc

730
00:42:10,670 --> 00:42:07,560
right it was utter silenced because

731
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:10,680
everyone was reading the new script they

732
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:13,440
were fascinated by the subject

733
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:17,520
it was an amazing atmosphere are you

734
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:22,079
surprised about uh the last

735
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:26,000
four or five years with the media

736
00:42:33,290 --> 00:42:29,280
covering UFOs now uh you know without

737
00:42:37,069 --> 00:42:33,300
laughing and uh the interest of you know

738
00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:37,079
of the Congress uh the Senate the

739
00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:41,040
Pentagon and and and and suddenly UFOs

740
00:42:46,910 --> 00:42:44,280
have arrived are you surprised uh when

741
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:46,920
most of us know that and think that you

742
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:48,480
know they've been here the entire time

743
00:42:52,849 --> 00:42:49,920
but now

744
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:52,859
they're in the news is is is this

745
00:42:58,010 --> 00:42:55,440
something that you expected

746
00:43:02,089 --> 00:42:58,020
I think it's trickling information is

747
00:43:04,750 --> 00:43:02,099
trickling out of the files to us

748
00:43:09,950 --> 00:43:04,760
there's so much to be

749
00:43:13,609 --> 00:43:09,960
discussed about what these things are

750
00:43:14,930 --> 00:43:13,619
and who's aboard them and why they're

751
00:43:18,650 --> 00:43:14,940
coming here

752
00:43:21,710 --> 00:43:18,660
a couple of books I've read where people

753
00:43:23,630 --> 00:43:21,720
had said there are alien bases here on

754
00:43:27,950 --> 00:43:23,640
this this planet

755
00:43:29,630 --> 00:43:27,960
and they've been shown that the basis

756
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:29,640
and uh

757
00:43:36,589 --> 00:43:32,640
they said that we don't engage with

758
00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:36,599
Humanity because you're so warlike

759
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:40,560
that we usually use planet Earth as a

760
00:43:46,670 --> 00:43:42,960
stopping station a way station

761
00:43:47,810 --> 00:43:46,680
for supplies to go on to further

762
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:47,820
atmospheres

763
00:43:53,150 --> 00:43:49,680
[Music]

764
00:43:55,970 --> 00:43:53,160
there yeah can we stay right there for a

765
00:43:59,450 --> 00:43:55,980
second let's let's take let's stay right

766
00:44:02,809 --> 00:43:59,460
there I've often wondered

767
00:44:05,390 --> 00:44:02,819
um I have watched this series so many

768
00:44:07,849 --> 00:44:05,400
times over the years I own copies of it

769
00:44:09,530 --> 00:44:07,859
and and everything else

770
00:44:11,089 --> 00:44:09,540
um and and now that I know that we're

771
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:11,099
neighbors I'm going to get you to sign

772
00:44:14,930 --> 00:44:12,960
everything but that's another that's

773
00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:14,940
that's for another that's for another

774
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:16,079
time

775
00:44:23,690 --> 00:44:20,400
um the storyline where did this come

776
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:23,700
from uh did you guys have any influence

777
00:44:30,410 --> 00:44:26,160
uh with information out of Washington DC

778
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:30,420
or was this uh created in Hollywood

779
00:44:36,410 --> 00:44:33,440
I know nothing about the Washington DC

780
00:44:39,710 --> 00:44:36,420
possibilities but uh

781
00:44:42,109 --> 00:44:39,720
there were Queen Martin hired the very

782
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:42,119
best writers he he

783
00:44:48,349 --> 00:44:46,319
you know paid the price but got the best

784
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:48,359
and some of these strips were really

785
00:44:52,130 --> 00:44:49,920
very moving

786
00:44:55,490 --> 00:44:52,140
uh

787
00:44:58,130 --> 00:44:55,500
I believe all the information it came

788
00:45:00,770 --> 00:44:58,140
from their imaginations and their study

789
00:45:03,290 --> 00:45:00,780
of the subject you know there are books

790
00:45:06,349 --> 00:45:03,300
out there for us to read if we want to

791
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:06,359
learn about UFOs and the experience

792
00:45:09,530 --> 00:45:08,330
of people who've made contact

793
00:45:11,630 --> 00:45:09,540
[Music]

794
00:45:13,309 --> 00:45:11,640
and

795
00:45:16,510 --> 00:45:13,319
perhaps that's where some of the

796
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:16,520
information came from yeah because

797
00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:19,440
the Invaders got a lot of things right

798
00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:23,940
right I mean you know I mean I want to

799
00:45:30,589 --> 00:45:26,640
bring in uh Don uh Schmidt uh for a

800
00:45:35,210 --> 00:45:30,599
second uh yeah right if I can ask you in

801
00:45:39,770 --> 00:45:35,220
1967 nobody had heard about Roswell okay

802
00:45:43,970 --> 00:45:39,780
Roswell uh happened in 1947 but there

803
00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:43,980
was a a bearing of the secrets that

804
00:45:49,970 --> 00:45:47,880
started in 1947 and in 1967 when the

805
00:45:51,950 --> 00:45:49,980
series kicked off you guys didn't know

806
00:45:54,589 --> 00:45:51,960
about Roswell

807
00:45:58,250 --> 00:45:54,599
um Don Schmidt and and Stanton Friedman

808
00:46:01,069 --> 00:45:58,260
and others uh in 1980 that story broke

809
00:46:04,250 --> 00:46:01,079
but that's that's something right there

810
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:04,260
Roy that would suggest to me that the

811
00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:07,440
secrets were kept but now looking back

812
00:46:13,970 --> 00:46:11,520
uh with Don's work uh with Roswell it's

813
00:46:16,010 --> 00:46:13,980
shows how much the Invaders did get

814
00:46:20,270 --> 00:46:16,020
right

815
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:20,280
yes Don and uh I think we can shot a

816
00:46:26,930 --> 00:46:22,079
couple of uh

817
00:46:28,849 --> 00:46:26,940
uh uh scenes out there near Roswell yeah

818
00:46:31,370 --> 00:46:28,859
in New Mexico

819
00:46:34,430 --> 00:46:31,380
um yeah I don't want to get two episodes

820
00:46:37,250 --> 00:46:34,440
specific but uh

821
00:46:39,230 --> 00:46:37,260
um one of the things and Don I know that

822
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:39,240
you appreciate this uh about the

823
00:46:47,569 --> 00:46:43,440
Invaders is uh Roy's character

824
00:46:50,690 --> 00:46:47,579
uh David Vinson is is on the road right

825
00:46:53,210 --> 00:46:50,700
he's on the road and driving through

826
00:46:55,970 --> 00:46:53,220
some of these towns and and I always

827
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:55,980
felt that New Mexico was clearly

828
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,800
represented uh what did you make a make

829
00:47:04,250 --> 00:47:00,480
of that Don

830
00:47:07,069 --> 00:47:04,260
well very appropriate that

831
00:47:10,430 --> 00:47:07,079
the Invaders was in many ways a

832
00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:10,440
continuation on the same theme as the

833
00:47:14,510 --> 00:47:13,200
previous uh you know hit series The

834
00:47:17,870 --> 00:47:14,520
Fugitive

835
00:47:20,569 --> 00:47:17,880
which Roy had also you know guessed it

836
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:20,579
in one of the final episodes

837
00:47:26,270 --> 00:47:24,240
and just replacing that

838
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:26,280
character

839
00:47:31,609 --> 00:47:29,280
as far as in Pursuit but yet also trying

840
00:47:34,510 --> 00:47:31,619
to convince a disbelieving world as the

841
00:47:37,609 --> 00:47:34,520
very introduction claimed of this

842
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:37,619
intrusion of this Invasion and no one's

843
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:39,119
believing him

844
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:42,720
that it would be almost into the next

845
00:47:48,890 --> 00:47:46,079
season before David Vinson was able to

846
00:47:52,609 --> 00:47:48,900
work together with a a group called The

847
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:52,619
Believers others who were aware who also

848
00:47:58,670 --> 00:47:55,440
knew that the invasion was taking place

849
00:48:01,849 --> 00:47:58,680
that the infiltration into our highest

850
00:48:04,030 --> 00:48:01,859
levels of society up to the the very

851
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:04,040
Washington itself

852
00:48:10,010 --> 00:48:07,680
and in many ways those of us within

853
00:48:13,250 --> 00:48:10,020
ufology we relate

854
00:48:15,470 --> 00:48:13,260
we empathize because that's what we've

855
00:48:17,450 --> 00:48:15,480
been doing all these years it's not only

856
00:48:20,809 --> 00:48:17,460
that we're trying to prove they're here

857
00:48:24,589 --> 00:48:20,819
but also dealing with a media

858
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:24,599
that has laughed it off and you know the

859
00:48:32,270 --> 00:48:28,319
the foil hats and cons you guys are

860
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:32,280
conspiracy nuts this type of thing and

861
00:48:37,010 --> 00:48:34,319
I think that's why

862
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:37,020
I have loved Roy all these years because

863
00:48:43,250 --> 00:48:41,280
I'm not only a tremendous fan but the

864
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:43,260
fact that we can sit down and talk shop

865
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:45,839
we can talk UFOs and he knows what I'm

866
00:48:50,890 --> 00:48:47,760
talking about it's like he's already

867
00:48:53,089 --> 00:48:50,900
been there he's walked the walk right

868
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:53,099
and yeah

869
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:57,599
it um can you inspire me and motivate me

870
00:49:02,089 --> 00:49:00,000
to no end and again that's why I'm so

871
00:49:04,670 --> 00:49:02,099
thrilled that he's with us tonight and

872
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:04,680
and thank you for that Don Roy

873
00:49:14,030 --> 00:49:08,880
um just to stay where Don was leading

874
00:49:17,750 --> 00:49:14,040
um uh did did this inspire you to to

875
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:21,109
to jump into it to to jump into the

876
00:49:29,650 --> 00:49:27,890
it's my curiosity about it absolutely

877
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:29,660
well

878
00:49:41,390 --> 00:49:39,170
deeply meaningful description of World

879
00:49:44,450 --> 00:49:41,400
War II

880
00:49:47,390 --> 00:49:44,460
I met people in Roswell who are still

881
00:49:49,849 --> 00:49:47,400
alive who were there when it happened

882
00:49:52,550 --> 00:49:49,859
and the military picked up all the

883
00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:52,560
evidence and scuffed it off and flew it

884
00:49:56,569 --> 00:49:54,720
off there was a military base nearby and

885
00:49:58,490 --> 00:49:56,579
they were flying this stuff out and

886
00:50:01,970 --> 00:49:58,500
putting it in different places no one

887
00:50:04,370 --> 00:50:01,980
knew what happened to the evidence

888
00:50:06,349 --> 00:50:04,380
and there were some particles of the

889
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:06,359
evidence that were still present there

890
00:50:10,550 --> 00:50:08,400
but they were buried

891
00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:10,560
and Solomon has gone out there and

892
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:13,020
x-rayed the Earth and I said what about

893
00:50:17,390 --> 00:50:15,119
these patches of Highway here that are

894
00:50:20,270 --> 00:50:17,400
covered in cement

895
00:50:23,150 --> 00:50:20,280
there are huge plots of cement to cover

896
00:50:24,170 --> 00:50:23,160
the just a short distance on the on the

897
00:50:28,250 --> 00:50:24,180
highways

898
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:28,260
and I said have they have they examined

899
00:50:33,890 --> 00:50:30,960
this Earth under underneath it's

900
00:50:36,650 --> 00:50:33,900
peculiar that somebody put concrete only

901
00:50:38,450 --> 00:50:36,660
in patches on this highway

902
00:50:40,609 --> 00:50:38,460
and they said no but we're going to

903
00:50:42,829 --> 00:50:40,619
suggest that

904
00:50:45,650 --> 00:50:42,839
when I said man if I were an alien

905
00:50:49,370 --> 00:50:45,660
that's where I'd bury this stuff under a

906
00:50:51,290 --> 00:50:49,380
patch of cement yeah yeah no kidding

907
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:51,300
um Roy have you

908
00:50:57,950 --> 00:50:54,480
um uh let me get back to uh uh this

909
00:50:59,290 --> 00:50:57,960
series for a second in the the opening

910
00:51:04,609 --> 00:50:59,300
scene

911
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:04,619
the the craft that is represented there

912
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:08,640
um it resembles uh uh quite a few

913
00:51:14,690 --> 00:51:12,240
eyewitness and and photographic uh

914
00:51:17,210 --> 00:51:14,700
records of of different craft over the

915
00:51:19,849 --> 00:51:17,220
years where did that design and that

916
00:51:22,430 --> 00:51:19,859
inspiration come from

917
00:51:24,410 --> 00:51:22,440
well I presume it came from what you're

918
00:51:26,990 --> 00:51:24,420
describing you know that there were

919
00:51:28,370 --> 00:51:27,000
descriptions by Witnesses real life

920
00:51:31,609 --> 00:51:28,380
Witnesses

921
00:51:32,809 --> 00:51:31,619
and uh it was constructed from those

922
00:51:36,290 --> 00:51:32,819
descriptions

923
00:51:38,690 --> 00:51:36,300
it was huge it was an enormous

924
00:51:41,329 --> 00:51:38,700
it was kind of scary to walk onto a lot

925
00:51:42,890 --> 00:51:41,339
and see this baby sitting there

926
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:42,900
because it reminds you of the first

927
00:51:49,930 --> 00:51:46,160
scene whoa are there people getting off

928
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:49,940
they they built it so the original

929
00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:53,040
uh the original craft for the set was

930
00:52:02,329 --> 00:51:59,750
yes they of course made it into sections

931
00:52:04,970 --> 00:52:02,339
eventually because they couldn't put the

932
00:52:09,530 --> 00:52:04,980
whole thing up in certain areas

933
00:52:10,430 --> 00:52:09,540
uh because it just it required a lot of

934
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:10,440
work

935
00:52:16,250 --> 00:52:12,720
so they would include you know part of

936
00:52:17,930 --> 00:52:16,260
it in in a shot and it made it the

937
00:52:19,309 --> 00:52:17,940
impression that the whole thing was

938
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:19,319
sitting there

939
00:52:25,130 --> 00:52:22,559
uh it's a little thing they do in film

940
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:25,140
that she cheats a little bit

941
00:52:32,809 --> 00:52:28,079
uh you understand what I'm saying I do I

942
00:52:35,569 --> 00:52:32,819
do and and when you're uh around uh don

943
00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:35,579
I see you signaling me see Donna's my

944
00:52:40,730 --> 00:52:38,700
co-host and now now uh Roy you can't see

945
00:52:43,010 --> 00:52:40,740
here tonight though only for tonight

946
00:52:45,770 --> 00:52:43,020
only for tonight did you have something

947
00:52:49,069 --> 00:52:45,780
to add Don mix in the mail well I I

948
00:52:52,190 --> 00:52:49,079
wanted Roy to talk about uh his own

949
00:52:54,349 --> 00:52:52,200
sighting that he had uh before the

950
00:52:58,130 --> 00:52:54,359
series even premiered he was with his

951
00:53:02,030 --> 00:52:58,140
wife at that time uh actress producer

952
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:02,040
Lynn Loring and you were on uh I think I

953
00:53:07,790 --> 00:53:04,880
believe Wilshire Boulevard

954
00:53:09,890 --> 00:53:07,800
now Don I'll teach you how to host a

955
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:09,900
show right this is how you ask the

956
00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:13,680
question you ready go ahead Roy have you

957
00:53:18,910 --> 00:53:16,079
had your own sighting

958
00:53:22,370 --> 00:53:18,920
yes sir

959
00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:22,380
it's that easy Don it's that easy

960
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:24,800
Roy uh

961
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:29,760
yeah exactly Don remembers everything I

962
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:32,160
mean you you can tell them something 20

963
00:53:37,370 --> 00:53:34,319
years ago and he remembers it to this

964
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:37,380
day yes it's an amazing one yes so what

965
00:53:46,490 --> 00:53:39,359
happened

966
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:46,500
it looks like there was only one but

967
00:53:51,890 --> 00:53:48,720
then eventually there was the solution

968
00:53:55,130 --> 00:53:51,900
of being two or maybe three

969
00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:55,140
uh and they were moving so quickly that

970
00:53:59,329 --> 00:53:56,880
uh

971
00:54:02,630 --> 00:53:59,339
you had no I it was hard to track them

972
00:54:05,390 --> 00:54:02,640
between buildings Etc right

973
00:54:07,549 --> 00:54:05,400
and then they flew off somewhere in the

974
00:54:11,809 --> 00:54:07,559
distance and disappeared

975
00:54:13,609 --> 00:54:11,819
so I don't know what that was and I know

976
00:54:17,450 --> 00:54:13,619
there had been so many reports of

977
00:54:19,870 --> 00:54:17,460
sightings that were like that

978
00:54:23,150 --> 00:54:19,880
uh

979
00:54:26,030 --> 00:54:23,160
nobody has any evidence of some of these

980
00:54:28,190 --> 00:54:26,040
sightings many of these sites

981
00:54:31,730 --> 00:54:28,200
it happened and there was no camera

982
00:54:33,170 --> 00:54:31,740
handy there nobody had cell phones in

983
00:54:34,910 --> 00:54:33,180
those days

984
00:54:37,010 --> 00:54:34,920
uh

985
00:54:39,410 --> 00:54:37,020
so there it went

986
00:54:41,329 --> 00:54:39,420
and it chills you

987
00:54:43,490 --> 00:54:41,339
and you take it with you and you

988
00:54:46,910 --> 00:54:43,500
remember it and now you start looking

989
00:54:52,730 --> 00:54:51,170
it becomes a major occupation

990
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:52,740
in life

991
00:55:00,650 --> 00:54:55,680
where you stay witness to what might be

992
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:00,660
out there were you able to uh if I may

993
00:55:05,210 --> 00:55:02,400
uh I want to stay right here for a

994
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:05,220
second because uh if this was prior to

995
00:55:11,870 --> 00:55:09,839
1967 uh before the filming of the series

996
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:11,880
um La was a different world back then

997
00:55:18,770 --> 00:55:15,839
Wilshire Boulevard and what La was in

998
00:55:21,049 --> 00:55:18,780
the mid 60s is not what it is today and

999
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,059
so if you are seeing something in the

1000
00:55:28,370 --> 00:55:23,280
sky it's not like the air traffic that

1001
00:55:31,309 --> 00:55:28,380
we have today right and did you go and

1002
00:55:32,990 --> 00:55:31,319
discuss this with with people or was

1003
00:55:35,569 --> 00:55:33,000
this something that you kept inside of

1004
00:55:41,809 --> 00:55:39,170
I kept it to myself because I've read so

1005
00:55:43,849 --> 00:55:41,819
many possibilities people had sightings

1006
00:55:46,990 --> 00:55:43,859
and they report them and they get no

1007
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:47,000
results nobody says anything

1008
00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:50,640
all right thank you bye-bye

1009
00:55:54,170 --> 00:55:52,559
you don't want to be the craziest yeah

1010
00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:54,180
you don't want to be the crazy guy

1011
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:56,400
ignored you don't want to be the crazy

1012
00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:01,200
guy and then you get to play him in a TV

1013
00:56:07,609 --> 00:56:04,400
series right it's exactly

1014
00:56:09,890 --> 00:56:07,619
life is a journey right and who would

1015
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:09,900
have thought that Quinn Martin would

1016
00:56:16,490 --> 00:56:14,160
would call you in uh to do a series and

1017
00:56:18,650 --> 00:56:16,500
you had your own personal experience of

1018
00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:18,660
what it's like to be maybe a little

1019
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:20,220
paranoid

1020
00:56:26,030 --> 00:56:23,040
yeah he never asked me about that you

1021
00:56:30,049 --> 00:56:26,040
know he never brought the subject up

1022
00:56:32,890 --> 00:56:30,059
but you know he he was representing the

1023
00:56:36,130 --> 00:56:32,900
character that I should commit to

1024
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:36,140
and they were studied

1025
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:39,200
and you don't want it to uh

1026
00:56:45,130 --> 00:56:42,240
something and how do you convince the

1027
00:56:47,809 --> 00:56:45,140
rest of the world that this is going on

1028
00:56:50,329 --> 00:56:47,819
you know they always say

1029
00:56:53,210 --> 00:56:50,339
you know give me a little more you know

1030
00:56:55,730 --> 00:56:53,220
the director right channel your channel

1031
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:55,740
your De Niro or whatever you know reach

1032
00:57:02,630 --> 00:56:58,319
deeper you only had to reach inside of

1033
00:57:04,490 --> 00:57:02,640
yourself and did you bring that into the

1034
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:04,500
role

1035
00:57:12,410 --> 00:57:08,400
well sure yeah you know it was it was

1036
00:57:16,970 --> 00:57:15,109
and some of the David Vincent's

1037
00:57:19,790 --> 00:57:16,980
experiences were more frightening than

1038
00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:19,800
anything I have ever imagined

1039
00:57:25,309 --> 00:57:21,599
uh

1040
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:25,319
and especially when he started to try to

1041
00:57:30,890 --> 00:57:27,599
inform

1042
00:57:33,950 --> 00:57:30,900
Humanity that this was going on and

1043
00:57:37,130 --> 00:57:33,960
discovered that the aliens had human

1044
00:57:39,410 --> 00:57:37,140
shakes he was dealing with aliens in

1045
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:39,420
some cases and he didn't know it police

1046
00:57:49,930 --> 00:57:40,880
Chiefs and

1047
00:57:55,370 --> 00:57:52,730
it is horrifying there was

1048
00:57:56,930 --> 00:57:55,380
um before we get to the break uh there

1049
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:56,940
was an episode

1050
00:58:03,650 --> 00:58:00,000
uh you pull into this small town and and

1051
00:58:05,930 --> 00:58:03,660
you you have a meeting uh uh with the

1052
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:05,940
head of this company and it's a smaller

1053
00:58:12,530 --> 00:58:09,359
but you go in and it turns out that the

1054
00:58:15,170 --> 00:58:12,540
alien base is in town right he's an ET

1055
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:15,180
you're dealing with his secretary and

1056
00:58:19,609 --> 00:58:17,520
that's part of the paranoia you now

1057
00:58:21,710 --> 00:58:19,619
don't know I'm talking about David

1058
00:58:24,770 --> 00:58:21,720
Vinton of course

1059
00:58:27,410 --> 00:58:24,780
um who is E.T and who isn't and now who

1060
00:58:29,870 --> 00:58:27,420
do you go and talk to that's the exact

1061
00:58:31,730 --> 00:58:29,880
paranoia that uh Witnesses still talk

1062
00:58:35,450 --> 00:58:31,740
about today

1063
00:58:38,450 --> 00:58:35,460
yes well and I you know you can include

1064
00:58:40,670 --> 00:58:38,460
me in that description because

1065
00:58:43,609 --> 00:58:40,680
who how do you know who you're talking

1066
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:43,619
to if it's a stranger

1067
00:58:49,010 --> 00:58:45,839
and how do you know that what you

1068
00:58:50,750 --> 00:58:49,020
divulge to him or explain to him or

1069
00:58:53,450 --> 00:58:50,760
described to him

1070
00:58:56,329 --> 00:58:53,460
is gonna go any further

1071
00:59:01,430 --> 00:58:56,339
without it turning on you

1072
00:59:04,130 --> 00:59:01,440
it creates a kind of a paranoia and uh

1073
00:59:06,670 --> 00:59:04,140
uh Quinn Martin must have written that

1074
00:59:10,730 --> 00:59:06,680
dialogue

1075
00:59:13,069 --> 00:59:10,740
Roy let's take our break right here uh

1076
00:59:15,170 --> 00:59:13,079
this this is Fade to Black I am your

1077
00:59:17,530 --> 00:59:15,180
host Jimmy church tonight Roy thinnes is

1078
00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:17,540
with us star of

1079
00:59:24,530 --> 00:59:22,319
1967's the Invaders my codes tonight is

1080
00:59:26,809 --> 00:59:24,540
Don Schmidt Don you stay right there

1081
00:59:28,670 --> 00:59:26,819
this is Fade to Black I'm your host

1082
00:59:31,309 --> 00:59:28,680
Jimmy church we'll be right back after

1083
00:59:32,890 --> 00:59:31,319
this short break stay with us I want to

1084
00:59:35,630 --> 00:59:32,900
remind everybody tomorrow night

1085
00:59:37,849 --> 00:59:35,640
Elizabeth hoagstra is here we're going

1086
00:59:39,650 --> 00:59:37,859
to be talking about grounding and then

1087
00:59:41,809 --> 00:59:39,660
Thursday night is another fader night

1088
00:59:44,510 --> 00:59:41,819
with open lines all night long I'm your

1089
00:59:49,069 --> 00:59:44,520
Simi church this is Fade to Black stay

1090
00:59:49,079 --> 00:59:53,600
foreign

1091
00:59:53,610 --> 01:00:10,510
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1092
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:16,370
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1093
01:00:20,770 --> 01:00:19,069
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1095
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1096
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report and you're listening to Jimmy

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[Music]

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foreign

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church tonight Rory Dennis is with us

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01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:06,500
star of the

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01:05:15,109 --> 01:05:12,000
1967-1968 hit TV series The Invaders and

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01:05:18,589 --> 01:05:15,119
also co-hosting with me tonight is Don

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01:05:21,950 --> 01:05:18,599
Schmidt and uh Roy

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01:05:25,849 --> 01:05:21,960
um I I wanted to ask you uh going back

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01:05:29,930 --> 01:05:25,859
to the production of the series did

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01:05:32,569 --> 01:05:29,940
anything strange happen uh during the

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01:05:35,329 --> 01:05:32,579
production of of the film

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you know and any sightings did you have

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01:05:40,789 --> 01:05:38,220
any personal experiences were the Men in

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01:05:43,130 --> 01:05:40,799
Black visiting the set you know anything

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01:05:46,490 --> 01:05:43,140
strange going on

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01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:46,500
no but your imagination is filled with

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01:05:53,930 --> 01:05:50,160
the suspicion and you know just playing

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01:05:56,630 --> 01:05:53,940
that role of your your enthralled with

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01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:56,640
it I will tell you that the second

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01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:57,839
season

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01:06:04,789 --> 01:06:00,960
was the strangest thing that happened

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01:06:07,730 --> 01:06:04,799
when we started having believers

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01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:07,740
it was from an order from a young group

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01:06:14,690 --> 01:06:11,280
of Executives at ABC who told Quinn that

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01:06:17,510 --> 01:06:14,700
they wanted to have more Believers and

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01:06:20,510 --> 01:06:17,520
car chases and shootouts

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01:06:22,730 --> 01:06:20,520
and I said oh God and we're going to

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01:06:25,010 --> 01:06:22,740
start with stuff you know

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01:06:27,289 --> 01:06:25,020
let's stick with what we have here this

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01:06:30,650 --> 01:06:27,299
is it it was in

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01:06:32,930 --> 01:06:30,660
it was magnificent the first season

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01:06:36,170 --> 01:06:32,940
the uh

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01:06:39,049 --> 01:06:36,180
they ended up asking Queen Martin to

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01:06:42,109 --> 01:06:39,059
find things for him to smile more they

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01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:42,119
wanted David Vincent to smile more

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01:06:46,970 --> 01:06:44,400
maybe less

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01:06:49,549 --> 01:06:46,980
and Quinn went to the network personally

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01:06:52,730 --> 01:06:49,559
which was not really his position he

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01:06:54,710 --> 01:06:52,740
usually sent to a a producer an

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01:06:57,109 --> 01:06:54,720
executive

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01:07:00,289 --> 01:06:57,119
he went there and he said have you seen

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01:07:04,430 --> 01:07:00,299
the series do you know what it's about

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01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,990
do you understand what we're doing here

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01:07:14,569 --> 01:07:12,589
and they said no we they insisted that

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01:07:15,710 --> 01:07:14,579
they wanted to do more of that and cheer

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01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:15,720
it up a bit

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01:07:22,670 --> 01:07:18,960
you said oh God anyway the meeting ended

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01:07:24,170 --> 01:07:22,680
up where he got extremely angry unlike

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01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:24,180
Quinn Martin

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01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:28,799
and uh they canceled the show and his

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01:07:35,450 --> 01:07:33,119
anything he had uh listed to do for that

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01:07:37,730 --> 01:07:35,460
Network he said what do you think it's

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01:07:40,789 --> 01:07:37,740
going to hurt me I said I have deals

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01:07:44,750 --> 01:07:40,799
with all networks I have movie deals

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01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:52,270
yes anyway he left

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01:07:57,890 --> 01:07:54,829
the show was canceled that week because

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01:07:59,930 --> 01:07:57,900
Quinn put his foot down

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01:08:01,789 --> 01:07:59,940
exactly

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01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:01,799
after

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01:08:12,349 --> 01:08:08,880
did did you have any sightings of your

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01:08:17,769 --> 01:08:14,690
yeah over the years you know the many

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01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:17,779
years I've seen things that are strange

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01:08:22,910 --> 01:08:20,960
things that are

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01:08:25,610 --> 01:08:22,920
describable

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01:08:28,430 --> 01:08:25,620
but not the kind that you take to the

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01:08:32,090 --> 01:08:28,440
market or take to the law enforcement

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01:08:38,209 --> 01:08:34,309
and they say well that guy from the

1255
01:08:40,430 --> 01:08:38,219
Invaders just came in and reported a UFO

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01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:40,440
good luck

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01:08:44,510 --> 01:08:42,000
yeah go ahead there's a central

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sensitive subject

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01:08:52,209 --> 01:08:47,160
but I did see things that happened that

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01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:55,849
yeah right there there are uh some out

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01:09:00,590 --> 01:08:58,319
there who would say and I'm in agreement

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01:09:04,010 --> 01:09:00,600
with this that the series was canceled

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01:09:08,150 --> 01:09:04,020
because it was it was maybe exposing too

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01:09:15,229 --> 01:09:12,410
the wrong way yeah the wrong way yeah go

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01:09:17,630 --> 01:09:15,239
ahead Don yes that's exactly where I

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01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:17,640
wanted to go with this uh first of all I

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01:09:20,990 --> 01:09:18,480
need to

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point out that the likes of Steven

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01:09:25,789 --> 01:09:23,040
Spielberg

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award-winning science fiction writer

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01:09:32,269 --> 01:09:29,100
Harlan Ellison have credited

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01:09:35,169 --> 01:09:32,279
the Invaders with highly influencing

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01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:35,179
both of their careers

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01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:38,640
and this was this was a New Concept the

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01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:41,120
idea that the Invaders was an adult

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01:09:48,410 --> 01:09:44,640
science fiction show

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01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:48,420
unlike anything heretofore and as Roy

1278
01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:50,400
would describe to me that throughout the

1279
01:09:54,530 --> 01:09:52,080
course of the series and even years

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01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:54,540
thereafter he was constantly getting

1281
01:09:57,250 --> 01:09:55,920
letters

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01:09:59,990 --> 01:09:57,260
from people

1283
01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:00,000
describing their experiences their own

1284
01:10:06,050 --> 01:10:03,840
sightings but also high-ranking Military

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01:10:08,090 --> 01:10:06,060
Officers

1286
01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:08,100
were confiding the Roy

1287
01:10:15,950 --> 01:10:11,600
about what was really going on

1288
01:10:24,050 --> 01:10:19,250
yeah you know

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01:10:26,870 --> 01:10:24,060
as I said uh Andy McIntyre and all his

1290
01:10:28,970 --> 01:10:26,880
fellow Pilots would see a flight of

1291
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:28,980
flying saucers following them into

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01:10:32,810 --> 01:10:30,719
combat

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01:10:34,010 --> 01:10:32,820
and then they have to report it when

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01:10:38,030 --> 01:10:34,020
they landed

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01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,149
silence

1296
01:10:44,290 --> 01:10:43,370
and that's been the policy regarding

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01:10:45,910 --> 01:10:44,300
UFOs

1298
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:45,920
[Music]

1299
01:10:58,550 --> 01:10:56,270
it's mad name that it's so quiet I mean

1300
01:11:01,610 --> 01:10:58,560
whether they protecting it's frustrating

1301
01:11:04,130 --> 01:11:01,620
and here we are our Earth is in a

1302
01:11:06,770 --> 01:11:04,140
nightmare stage every country is going

1303
01:11:08,300 --> 01:11:06,780
through turmoil and murders and killings

1304
01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:08,310
and floods

1305
01:11:12,350 --> 01:11:10,080
[Music]

1306
01:11:15,890 --> 01:11:12,360
we've never had a nightmare like these

1307
01:11:20,750 --> 01:11:18,830
and how are we experiencing it people

1308
01:11:24,590 --> 01:11:20,760
are going out and killing people in the

1309
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:28,970
Mr Pelosi got his head bashed in

1310
01:11:36,290 --> 01:11:31,920
what the hell is going on

1311
01:11:39,290 --> 01:11:36,300
it's uh it's like an alien invasion or

1312
01:11:41,450 --> 01:11:39,300
an alien spired invasion let everybody

1313
01:11:43,610 --> 01:11:41,460
screw each other on the earth and

1314
01:11:47,169 --> 01:11:43,620
they'll clean up the whole mess and

1315
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:47,179
we'll have a landing space

1316
01:11:57,649 --> 01:11:51,600
right he here's the thing with that

1317
01:12:00,410 --> 01:11:57,659
um uh their their seems to be

1318
01:12:03,229 --> 01:12:00,420
um uh a lot out there a lot of people

1319
01:12:05,090 --> 01:12:03,239
out there that want E.T to come and save

1320
01:12:07,669 --> 01:12:05,100
us from ourselves

1321
01:12:11,930 --> 01:12:07,679
right and and we need to save ourselves

1322
01:12:13,970 --> 01:12:11,940
first Roy uh and ET if they're watching

1323
01:12:15,470 --> 01:12:13,980
this planet right now why would why

1324
01:12:21,709 --> 01:12:15,480
would they want to come here and hang

1325
01:12:24,050 --> 01:12:21,719
out when when we we haven't grown up yet

1326
01:12:27,169 --> 01:12:24,060
exactly

1327
01:12:31,250 --> 01:12:27,179
so anyway my last scene that I hope to

1328
01:12:34,430 --> 01:12:31,260
do for the the Invaders where I can be

1329
01:12:36,709 --> 01:12:34,440
on screen smiling

1330
01:12:40,030 --> 01:12:36,719
and I say Maria

1331
01:12:42,700 --> 01:12:40,040
I just met a girl named

1332
01:12:46,689 --> 01:12:42,710
Mariah

1333
01:12:49,490 --> 01:12:46,699
[Laughter]

1334
01:12:53,630 --> 01:12:49,500
say good night folks the rest of the

1335
01:12:58,010 --> 01:12:53,640
evening is yours yeah Fade to Black uh

1336
01:13:01,729 --> 01:12:58,020
and and and and uh here's Don brought up

1337
01:13:04,430 --> 01:13:01,739
a really good point that uh the Invaders

1338
01:13:07,370 --> 01:13:04,440
certainly the timing of it was was great

1339
01:13:09,050 --> 01:13:07,380
and and what followed after the Invaders

1340
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:09,060
you know he had things like Lost in

1341
01:13:16,729 --> 01:13:12,960
Space and Star Trek and uh space 1999

1342
01:13:19,130 --> 01:13:16,739
and uh UFO one of the great TV series by

1343
01:13:23,270 --> 01:13:19,140
the way of all time UFO

1344
01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:23,280
um that inspired so much but the X-Files

1345
01:13:29,870 --> 01:13:25,920
would not have happened you know the

1346
01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:29,880
X-Files is like the Invaders part two

1347
01:13:36,169 --> 01:13:32,400
um what did you think of the X-Files and

1348
01:13:38,689 --> 01:13:36,179
then certainly to be asked to to to come

1349
01:13:40,610 --> 01:13:38,699
on and and and start in a couple of

1350
01:13:42,169 --> 01:13:40,620
episodes

1351
01:13:44,689 --> 01:13:42,179
wow

1352
01:13:48,290 --> 01:13:44,699
I'll tell you Jimmy uh

1353
01:13:53,330 --> 01:13:48,300
I was working so much and I say this

1354
01:13:55,850 --> 01:13:53,340
with joy because I had a beautiful life

1355
01:13:58,910 --> 01:13:55,860
that I've never seen the shows that I

1356
01:14:01,010 --> 01:13:58,920
filmed I'm seeing now I just saw Murder

1357
01:14:03,770 --> 01:14:01,020
She Wrote the other night that I hadn't

1358
01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:03,780
seen in what five years

1359
01:14:10,189 --> 01:14:08,159
I I saw episodes of the past series that

1360
01:14:11,209 --> 01:14:10,199
I'd never seen because I was on a

1361
01:14:15,290 --> 01:14:11,219
location

1362
01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:15,300
early hours on the set and I missed the

1363
01:14:22,850 --> 01:14:20,750
so I am 50 years later catching up on

1364
01:14:25,790 --> 01:14:22,860
what I did

1365
01:14:29,390 --> 01:14:25,800
and I had very little time to enjoy

1366
01:14:32,630 --> 01:14:29,400
other people's series and shows

1367
01:14:35,810 --> 01:14:32,640
uh so you're asking me

1368
01:14:37,250 --> 01:14:35,820
about a show what I thought about it and

1369
01:14:38,210 --> 01:14:37,260
I didn't

1370
01:14:40,390 --> 01:14:38,220
didn't watch it

1371
01:14:43,370 --> 01:14:40,400
[Laughter]

1372
01:14:46,430 --> 01:14:43,380
uh well here's here's here's the thing

1373
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:46,440
Don doesn't read his own books either

1374
01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:50,640
so and and Roy I got to tell you I've

1375
01:14:58,790 --> 01:14:54,239
done 2 000 uh episodes uh on the radio

1376
01:15:01,250 --> 01:14:58,800
live I've never listened to any of them

1377
01:15:04,130 --> 01:15:01,260
you know you just you know I'm a working

1378
01:15:06,830 --> 01:15:04,140
you know I'm a working stiff uh just

1379
01:15:08,870 --> 01:15:06,840
like right and you've got it and you've

1380
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:08,880
been there done that so you're moving on

1381
01:15:14,649 --> 01:15:11,760
yeah you just move on that's good that's

1382
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:14,659
right yeah I want to bring up something

1383
01:15:20,450 --> 01:15:18,000
uh uh don I don't want to take you too

1384
01:15:22,910 --> 01:15:20,460
much by surprise here but uh Roy and I

1385
01:15:28,550 --> 01:15:22,920
uh were talking before the show

1386
01:15:32,990 --> 01:15:28,560
and Roy if you could uh 10 days ago

1387
01:15:34,490 --> 01:15:33,000
you got some pretty good news and uh can

1388
01:15:36,410 --> 01:15:34,500
you share that with can you share that

1389
01:15:41,689 --> 01:15:36,420
with the audience

1390
01:15:43,850 --> 01:15:41,699
yes and I have five adult children and I

1391
01:15:47,330 --> 01:15:43,860
was with three of them when we discussed

1392
01:15:50,030 --> 01:15:47,340
the decision that I made

1393
01:15:53,330 --> 01:15:50,040
and they were behind me whatever way I

1394
01:15:56,450 --> 01:15:53,340
wanted to go I was told that I had

1395
01:15:58,850 --> 01:15:56,460
inoperable cancer

1396
01:16:00,350 --> 01:15:58,860
and the cancer was so close to the heart

1397
01:16:02,930 --> 01:16:00,360
that they couldn't go after it

1398
01:16:10,250 --> 01:16:07,270
and a wonderful genius named Natasha

1399
01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:10,260
Banerjee MD

1400
01:16:15,709 --> 01:16:12,080
who runs the

1401
01:16:18,229 --> 01:16:15,719
chemotherapy section at Cedar Sinai

1402
01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:18,239
here in the valley

1403
01:16:24,530 --> 01:16:21,360
I went to meet with her to tell her that

1404
01:16:26,689 --> 01:16:24,540
I had such a good life and if I am in

1405
01:16:29,330 --> 01:16:26,699
such a bad condition right now I would

1406
01:16:33,110 --> 01:16:29,340
rather just check out and my children

1407
01:16:34,370 --> 01:16:33,120
are okay with it they said whatever I

1408
01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:34,380
decide

1409
01:16:40,310 --> 01:16:37,920
and she told me that she would like to

1410
01:16:41,990 --> 01:16:40,320
have the experience she told me the

1411
01:16:45,890 --> 01:16:42,000
negatives and the positives of

1412
01:16:47,930 --> 01:16:45,900
chemotherapy and how she can run it

1413
01:16:51,050 --> 01:16:47,940
now mind you I had checked with three

1414
01:16:54,169 --> 01:16:51,060
doctors before I went to see her

1415
01:16:56,750 --> 01:16:54,179
and asking what is this energy lady

1416
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:56,760
about and they said oh she's a genius

1417
01:17:02,390 --> 01:16:59,760
she's a genius she had a reputation with

1418
01:17:04,610 --> 01:17:02,400
everyone I talked to

1419
01:17:06,530 --> 01:17:04,620
and she sat there and talked about the

1420
01:17:09,649 --> 01:17:06,540
negatives and the positives of

1421
01:17:11,630 --> 01:17:09,659
chemotherapy and said that I will alter

1422
01:17:14,090 --> 01:17:11,640
it to suit you if you're having a bad

1423
01:17:16,910 --> 01:17:14,100
reaction to it I pulled back and I

1424
01:17:20,990 --> 01:17:16,920
changed the chemical formula

1425
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:25,250
and I said I think I'd like to try this

1426
01:17:29,510 --> 01:17:27,830
and my kids were related they thought oh

1427
01:17:31,130 --> 01:17:29,520
very good very good

1428
01:17:33,709 --> 01:17:31,140
and I went through the whole

1429
01:17:37,729 --> 01:17:33,719
chemotherapy and uh

1430
01:17:45,709 --> 01:17:40,970
and 10 days ago I was told

1431
01:17:49,810 --> 01:17:45,719
well by Miss Banerjee Dr Banerjee

1432
01:17:52,490 --> 01:17:49,820
I saw her on screen on my son's computer

1433
01:17:54,830 --> 01:17:52,500
and she came on with a beautiful dress

1434
01:17:56,870 --> 01:17:54,840
and she was giggling and just said I'd

1435
01:17:59,090 --> 01:17:56,880
never seen her like this

1436
01:18:00,110 --> 01:17:59,100
and she said I have some great news for

1437
01:18:02,870 --> 01:18:00,120
you

1438
01:18:09,410 --> 01:18:02,880
and I said what's that

1439
01:18:17,149 --> 01:18:13,189
and let's begin the celebration you

1440
01:18:19,850 --> 01:18:17,159
don't get good news that good news no uh

1441
01:18:22,430 --> 01:18:19,860
often no she doesn't give up that kind

1442
01:18:25,490 --> 01:18:22,440
of news that often

1443
01:18:27,350 --> 01:18:25,500
you know she leads a very tragic life

1444
01:18:29,630 --> 01:18:27,360
with the bad news that she has to

1445
01:18:30,770 --> 01:18:29,640
deliver to a lot of patients

1446
01:18:33,169 --> 01:18:30,780
yeah

1447
01:18:36,290 --> 01:18:33,179
and here she was giggling in the

1448
01:18:39,229 --> 01:18:36,300
beautiful dress right

1449
01:18:41,689 --> 01:18:39,239
telling me I'm okay

1450
01:18:46,870 --> 01:18:41,699
and I've been

1451
01:18:53,450 --> 01:18:50,270
Roy can I ask how do you how do you feel

1452
01:18:54,890 --> 01:18:53,460
right I mean no no hold on I'm going to

1453
01:18:58,550 --> 01:18:54,900
change the question

1454
01:19:00,830 --> 01:18:58,560
how did you feel 11 days ago did you

1455
01:19:02,750 --> 01:19:00,840
feel different before you got the news

1456
01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:02,760
were you feeling better

1457
01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:05,040
and I was the guy who sat in the garden

1458
01:19:12,229 --> 01:19:09,360
here at the place where I'm living

1459
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:12,239
and I would recite to myself I have

1460
01:19:18,350 --> 01:19:14,880
inoperable cancer

1461
01:19:20,990 --> 01:19:18,360
and I don't know what I'm going to do

1462
01:19:24,649 --> 01:19:21,000
wow

1463
01:19:25,530 --> 01:19:24,659
and it was a monologue that was

1464
01:19:26,930 --> 01:19:25,540
repetitious

1465
01:19:30,590 --> 01:19:26,940
[Music]

1466
01:19:33,530 --> 01:19:30,600
and I said how do I do this

1467
01:19:35,689 --> 01:19:33,540
I was a very I was in a wheelchair at

1468
01:19:39,530 --> 01:19:35,699
the time because I had a bad reaction to

1469
01:19:42,830 --> 01:19:39,540
the Radiology that she did and so

1470
01:19:46,790 --> 01:19:42,840
but uh I'm out of the wheelchair now and

1471
01:19:50,450 --> 01:19:46,800
I'm using a walker I have the

1472
01:19:53,689 --> 01:19:50,460
uh physical exercise but a very good

1473
01:19:55,490 --> 01:19:53,699
professional from the Ukraine no less a

1474
01:19:58,610 --> 01:19:55,500
beautiful woman

1475
01:20:01,550 --> 01:19:58,620
twice a week and the days that I don't

1476
01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:01,560
have that I'm out I'm in the garden I

1477
01:20:06,110 --> 01:20:03,840
walk three times a day

1478
01:20:08,870 --> 01:20:06,120
and I'll be tap dancing before you know

1479
01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:08,880
it that just that's rock and roll man

1480
01:20:14,510 --> 01:20:12,080
that is just it's so inspirational

1481
01:20:16,189 --> 01:20:14,520
and you know for the for the audience

1482
01:20:18,410 --> 01:20:16,199
and I'm watching uh you know their

1483
01:20:20,689 --> 01:20:18,420
reactions and by the way everybody is

1484
01:20:24,550 --> 01:20:20,699
you know they're saying congratulations

1485
01:20:30,410 --> 01:20:24,560
like you won something but you did right

1486
01:20:33,770 --> 01:20:30,420
I did yeah certainly and can I ask you

1487
01:20:34,930 --> 01:20:33,780
um you know for for the audience that is

1488
01:20:39,649 --> 01:20:34,940
listening

1489
01:20:43,790 --> 01:20:39,659
how how much does the mind

1490
01:20:46,370 --> 01:20:43,800
control this right positive attitude you

1491
01:20:48,530 --> 01:20:46,380
know how much does the mind of course

1492
01:20:52,010 --> 01:20:48,540
you know you have a great doctor and a

1493
01:20:56,030 --> 01:20:52,020
great MD and and and the medical side of

1494
01:20:57,290 --> 01:20:56,040
it but the power of the mind right

1495
01:21:01,149 --> 01:20:57,300
yeah

1496
01:21:04,010 --> 01:21:01,159
well and there's the power of chemistry

1497
01:21:06,709 --> 01:21:04,020
because you're sitting there with your

1498
01:21:09,169 --> 01:21:06,719
powerful mind wondering what's going to

1499
01:21:11,930 --> 01:21:09,179
happen to me I've done the chemotherapy

1500
01:21:14,209 --> 01:21:11,940
that was two months of treatment

1501
01:21:17,209 --> 01:21:14,219
where they pour gallons of stuff in your

1502
01:21:20,510 --> 01:21:17,219
veins right and what is have I changed

1503
01:21:22,370 --> 01:21:20,520
no I haven't changed nothing's changed

1504
01:21:25,790 --> 01:21:22,380
and then they gave me the Radiology

1505
01:21:27,550 --> 01:21:25,800
which was terrible I was in pain for 138

1506
01:21:31,090 --> 01:21:27,560
days

1507
01:21:32,649 --> 01:21:31,100
and finally that ended with the correct

1508
01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:32,659
uh

1509
01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:36,000
drugs to help me

1510
01:21:40,550 --> 01:21:37,920
and

1511
01:21:42,890 --> 01:21:40,560
suddenly I get this call from Dr

1512
01:21:46,850 --> 01:21:42,900
Banerjee

1513
01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:46,860
and the nightmare has ended

1514
01:21:51,410 --> 01:21:49,440
because you require singing behind all

1515
01:21:54,169 --> 01:21:51,420
this

1516
01:21:58,630 --> 01:21:54,179
it was magnificent

1517
01:22:03,410 --> 01:21:58,640
that's uh yeah it is later on

1518
01:22:06,950 --> 01:22:03,420
so inspirational so inspirational and uh

1519
01:22:08,810 --> 01:22:06,960
and you said tap dancing but now you can

1520
01:22:11,330 --> 01:22:08,820
go back and watch all the stuff that

1521
01:22:13,850 --> 01:22:11,340
you'd been in over the years too as well

1522
01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:13,860
well I have a friend in New Jersey who

1523
01:22:19,250 --> 01:22:15,840
calls me and when she finds things that

1524
01:22:21,950 --> 01:22:19,260
are on like she gave me all the dates of

1525
01:22:23,410 --> 01:22:21,960
the Murder She Wrote because I've done

1526
01:22:26,090 --> 01:22:23,420
about five episodes

1527
01:22:28,970 --> 01:22:26,100
and I was happy to see them because I

1528
01:22:29,930 --> 01:22:28,980
had no idea I forgot what characters I

1529
01:22:34,250 --> 01:22:29,940
had played

1530
01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:34,260
and uh she's a master on on the internet

1531
01:22:39,470 --> 01:22:36,719
and she finds out about these shows that

1532
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:39,480
are playing that I'd never seen

1533
01:22:44,270 --> 01:22:41,760
so she calls me every now and then said

1534
01:22:46,910 --> 01:22:44,280
you know it's going to be out at 5 a.m

1535
01:22:49,910 --> 01:22:46,920
Monday morning

1536
01:22:53,709 --> 01:22:49,920
I'm sure I get up from lunch

1537
01:22:56,330 --> 01:22:53,719
just to see what I was doing in 1970.

1538
01:23:00,050 --> 01:22:56,340
and there you go

1539
01:23:00,890 --> 01:23:00,060
Don go ahead yes Roy had called me last

1540
01:23:04,070 --> 01:23:00,900
week

1541
01:23:05,570 --> 01:23:04,080
left a message on my phone that he had

1542
01:23:08,810 --> 01:23:05,580
good news

1543
01:23:12,590 --> 01:23:08,820
and I thought maybe he landed some new

1544
01:23:16,669 --> 01:23:12,600
TV gig or a movie you know role or

1545
01:23:21,050 --> 01:23:16,679
something and then to hear about this

1546
01:23:24,890 --> 01:23:21,060
and it's just weird news oh it was the

1547
01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:24,900
best news one can't imagine because

1548
01:23:28,250 --> 01:23:26,880
um Roy has been through a lot through

1549
01:23:32,750 --> 01:23:28,260
the years and you're talking about

1550
01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:32,760
someone who originally dreamed of

1551
01:23:38,990 --> 01:23:35,280
playing Major League Baseball

1552
01:23:40,970 --> 01:23:39,000
a Chicago boy that had you know had a

1553
01:23:44,090 --> 01:23:40,980
set of goal playing with the Chicago

1554
01:23:47,570 --> 01:23:44,100
Cubs or the Chicago White Sox that type

1555
01:23:50,870 --> 01:23:47,580
of thing and someone in the Invaders who

1556
01:23:55,610 --> 01:23:50,880
did most of his own stunts

1557
01:23:59,149 --> 01:23:55,620
I mean he was an athletic actor

1558
01:24:01,250 --> 01:23:59,159
and then to see him struggle at times

1559
01:24:04,130 --> 01:24:01,260
when things would happen

1560
01:24:06,590 --> 01:24:04,140
and this was the best news I've I've

1561
01:24:08,810 --> 01:24:06,600
heard I mean and we talked for a good

1562
01:24:12,729 --> 01:24:08,820
hour when I called him immediately back

1563
01:24:16,669 --> 01:24:12,739
and uh we both shared that elation

1564
01:24:18,490 --> 01:24:16,679
that um yeah talk about a second that's

1565
01:24:21,130 --> 01:24:18,500
the thing you leave on a message machine

1566
01:24:24,850 --> 01:24:21,140
right yeah

1567
01:24:28,970 --> 01:24:24,860
right right

1568
01:24:30,770 --> 01:24:28,980
yeah right I want to ask you a question

1569
01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:30,780
you ready

1570
01:24:35,689 --> 01:24:33,600
Jack Jack brookhouse

1571
01:24:39,470 --> 01:24:35,699
or Harry Carey

1572
01:24:44,510 --> 01:24:41,330
Jesus I don't know what you're talking

1573
01:24:45,770 --> 01:24:44,520
about ah the announcers for the Cubs in

1574
01:24:49,250 --> 01:24:45,780
Chicago

1575
01:24:51,890 --> 01:24:49,260
oh yeah it's been a long time I've been

1576
01:24:56,149 --> 01:24:51,900
in Chicago yeah I was I was I was born

1577
01:24:59,270 --> 01:24:56,159
in Chicago uh myself and yeah yeah and

1578
01:25:01,250 --> 01:24:59,280
it's just uh I was born at Great Lakes

1579
01:25:03,709 --> 01:25:01,260
Naval Station

1580
01:25:06,250 --> 01:25:03,719
oh well do you know where that is north

1581
01:25:09,290 --> 01:25:06,260
of it's in Waukegan

1582
01:25:11,630 --> 01:25:09,300
closer close to the state line right are

1583
01:25:12,550 --> 01:25:11,640
you on the lake or near the lake on the

1584
01:25:17,630 --> 01:25:12,560
lake

1585
01:25:18,550 --> 01:25:17,640
sand

1586
01:25:21,830 --> 01:25:18,560
um

1587
01:25:24,169 --> 01:25:21,840
yeah it is it is

1588
01:25:25,310 --> 01:25:24,179
um now let's let's Circle back here for

1589
01:25:30,770 --> 01:25:25,320
a second

1590
01:25:34,130 --> 01:25:30,780
um the uh the experience of uh the

1591
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:34,140
Invaders series it's canceled

1592
01:25:41,630 --> 01:25:37,199
um and you move on with your career

1593
01:25:45,530 --> 01:25:41,640
um but the the the the stories and the

1594
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:45,540
coverage of the UFO subject uh really

1595
01:25:52,130 --> 01:25:47,520
started to take off and of course Don

1596
01:25:55,490 --> 01:25:52,140
had a a big major part in bringing this

1597
01:25:57,830 --> 01:25:55,500
knowledge out to the masses how much how

1598
01:26:00,709 --> 01:25:57,840
much do you think the government

1599
01:26:03,890 --> 01:26:00,719
actually knows is this just one big

1600
01:26:05,149 --> 01:26:03,900
massive cover-up and they know a lot or

1601
01:26:07,490 --> 01:26:05,159
do you think they're still trying to

1602
01:26:10,910 --> 01:26:07,500
figure it out on their own

1603
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:10,920
the first the no massive amount and they

1604
01:26:16,669 --> 01:26:13,679
don't know how to present it and I don't

1605
01:26:20,570 --> 01:26:16,679
think they understand all of it or how

1606
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:20,580
to deal with it or what to do with it

1607
01:26:24,590 --> 01:26:22,320
I mean you could be a peaceful person

1608
01:26:27,410 --> 01:26:24,600
let's say there's a visitor comes from

1609
01:26:30,830 --> 01:26:27,420
another planet and says hello I'm from

1610
01:26:33,229 --> 01:26:30,840
Yong you're from Young are you

1611
01:26:35,810 --> 01:26:33,239
well sit down and let's have a Chinese

1612
01:26:41,570 --> 01:26:39,830
and let's get together for an idea

1613
01:26:45,830 --> 01:26:41,580
session

1614
01:26:54,649 --> 01:26:51,350
the planet from the evaporation of water

1615
01:26:56,450 --> 01:26:54,659
we're in trouble with water

1616
01:27:02,330 --> 01:26:56,460
we're in trouble with a lot of things

1617
01:27:08,510 --> 01:27:05,990
nobody's doing that it seems

1618
01:27:10,370 --> 01:27:08,520
just fight each other they fight one

1619
01:27:12,010 --> 01:27:10,380
another in their own Nations they don't

1620
01:27:15,770 --> 01:27:12,020
even go out of their Nations anymore

1621
01:27:17,810 --> 01:27:15,780
they fight with each other

1622
01:27:20,689 --> 01:27:17,820
all over the place

1623
01:27:22,910 --> 01:27:20,699
here too yeah I you know what you know

1624
01:27:24,350 --> 01:27:22,920
what strange uh before we get to the

1625
01:27:28,490 --> 01:27:24,360
break Roy

1626
01:27:31,010 --> 01:27:28,500
um I I just spent uh uh 10 or 11 days in

1627
01:27:35,450 --> 01:27:31,020
Egypt I just got back last week

1628
01:27:39,110 --> 01:27:35,460
and and here here's the thing for me

1629
01:27:41,570 --> 01:27:39,120
going to Egypt and I went over I went

1630
01:27:46,310 --> 01:27:41,580
all around the country right uh you know

1631
01:27:49,729 --> 01:27:46,320
if I flew and and and rode on a ship and

1632
01:27:53,110 --> 01:27:49,739
when I toured the country anyway the

1633
01:27:55,610 --> 01:27:53,120
people of Egypt are awesome

1634
01:27:58,669 --> 01:27:55,620
smiling the poorest to the rich

1635
01:28:02,030 --> 01:27:58,679
everybody is laughing smiling I I could

1636
01:28:04,189 --> 01:28:02,040
not believe what I had experienced and

1637
01:28:05,870 --> 01:28:04,199
then I get on the plane and I'm flying

1638
01:28:07,250 --> 01:28:05,880
back to the United States and I'm

1639
01:28:10,250 --> 01:28:07,260
thinking man

1640
01:28:14,330 --> 01:28:10,260
I love my country but we've got it all

1641
01:28:16,430 --> 01:28:14,340
wrong right Egypt seems to have it

1642
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:16,440
figured out you know they've had 5 000

1643
01:28:22,490 --> 01:28:20,880
years to grow up and and here uh we're

1644
01:28:24,830 --> 01:28:22,500
not smiling

1645
01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:24,840
you know and and I think that the people

1646
01:28:30,290 --> 01:28:26,880
of the United States should go to Egypt

1647
01:28:32,390 --> 01:28:30,300
and experience how other people live and

1648
01:28:35,209 --> 01:28:32,400
just go and and see the world a little

1649
01:28:37,370 --> 01:28:35,219
bit and and then come back here and see

1650
01:28:40,070 --> 01:28:37,380
how we treat each other and I was kind

1651
01:28:44,810 --> 01:28:40,080
of bummed out coming back knowing I was

1652
01:28:50,870 --> 01:28:46,850
yep

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01:28:52,910 --> 01:28:50,880
it's depressing uh and I'm all for the

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01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:52,920
plan of getting people to visit Egypt

1655
01:28:57,050 --> 01:28:54,480
and take

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01:29:01,550 --> 01:28:57,060
a lesson from their

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01:29:05,810 --> 01:29:04,250
uh nearby Nations

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01:29:08,930 --> 01:29:05,820
to Egypt

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01:29:10,610 --> 01:29:08,940
no fighting with each other

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01:29:14,030 --> 01:29:10,620
what's uh

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01:29:16,430 --> 01:29:14,040
just today yeah

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01:29:18,530 --> 01:29:16,440
Let's uh let's take our break right here

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01:29:20,689 --> 01:29:18,540
Roy uh we're gonna do one more segment

1664
01:29:22,550 --> 01:29:20,699
so you just stay right there this is

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01:29:26,030 --> 01:29:22,560
Fade to Black I am your host Jimmy

1666
01:29:29,870 --> 01:29:26,040
church tonight Roy Dennis is with us

1667
01:29:31,850 --> 01:29:29,880
along with my co-host Don Schmidt this

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is Fade to Black I am your host Jimmy

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01:29:36,590 --> 01:29:33,179
Church

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01:29:40,980 --> 01:29:36,600
more with Roy more with Don after this

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01:29:58,149 --> 01:29:54,970
[Music]

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01:30:00,740 --> 01:29:58,159
way out here we listened to Jimmy Church

1673
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you're listening to Fade to Black

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[Applause]

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you're listening to Jimmy church and

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1781
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[Music]

1782
01:34:57,350 --> 01:34:54,179
Networks you're listening to Jimmy

1783
01:35:01,010 --> 01:34:57,360
church this is Revolution the revolution

1784
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will not be televised the revolution is

1785
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on radio

1786
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[Music]

1787
01:35:37,650 --> 01:35:16,580
thank you

1788
01:35:37,660 --> 01:35:42,990
[Applause]

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01:35:47,870 --> 01:35:45,830
[Music]

1790
01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:47,880
Welcome Back Fade to Black I'm your host

1791
01:35:52,550 --> 01:35:49,920
Jimmy church I'm the game changer and

1792
01:35:55,070 --> 01:35:52,560
unex networks

1793
01:36:01,250 --> 01:35:55,080
this is Fade to Black tonight Roy Dennis

1794
01:36:03,950 --> 01:36:01,260
is with us and I'm gonna say uh Roy

1795
01:36:06,350 --> 01:36:03,960
it's an honor and a privilege sir again

1796
01:36:09,290 --> 01:36:06,360
I just want to extend my thanks uh to

1797
01:36:12,530 --> 01:36:09,300
you for for uh this conversation tonight

1798
01:36:16,910 --> 01:36:12,540
absolutely tremendous but

1799
01:36:19,790 --> 01:36:16,920
there is a thinness in our chat room

1800
01:36:22,310 --> 01:36:19,800
and I so I just said Roy I said are you

1801
01:36:25,430 --> 01:36:22,320
related are you related to Roy and she

1802
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:25,440
said no I mean what are the odds of uh

1803
01:36:31,310 --> 01:36:28,560
another thinnest being out there

1804
01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:31,320
where's she from she said uh from

1805
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:38,150
yeah wow yeah right

1806
01:36:43,870 --> 01:36:39,550
[Music]

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01:36:49,070 --> 01:36:43,880
my dad was the oldest of 11 boys

1808
01:36:50,990 --> 01:36:49,080
and uh they all had families there were

1809
01:36:52,629 --> 01:36:51,000
I think there are only five of them or

1810
01:36:55,790 --> 01:36:52,639
six of them left

1811
01:36:58,370 --> 01:36:55,800
uh but uh

1812
01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:58,380
you know that's a lot of people and they

1813
01:37:02,830 --> 01:37:00,480
all had children

1814
01:37:04,729 --> 01:37:02,840
and some of them moves at different

1815
01:37:06,470 --> 01:37:04,739
locations they were out of the

1816
01:37:08,750 --> 01:37:06,480
neighborhood so I never saw them at the

1817
01:37:12,649 --> 01:37:08,760
holidays

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01:37:15,350 --> 01:37:12,659
I wonder yeah yeah yeah thinness is is

1819
01:37:17,950 --> 01:37:15,360
is it's not it's not like the last name

1820
01:37:21,350 --> 01:37:17,960
Smith right

1821
01:37:25,850 --> 01:37:21,360
you know it's a thinnest from Chicago

1822
01:37:28,550 --> 01:37:25,860
but she says no so uh uh there you go I

1823
01:37:33,169 --> 01:37:28,560
don't want to say her name but she

1824
01:37:36,550 --> 01:37:33,179
oh now she just said yes I am his cousin

1825
01:37:40,129 --> 01:37:36,560
our dads were brothers

1826
01:37:42,830 --> 01:37:40,139
okay uh what's your dad's name what's

1827
01:37:45,470 --> 01:37:42,840
her dad's name uh well hold on there's

1828
01:37:48,649 --> 01:37:45,480
like a we're on a time delay about six

1829
01:37:50,090 --> 01:37:48,659
seconds so I gotta give her a chance to

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01:37:53,090 --> 01:37:50,100
answer

1831
01:37:55,450 --> 01:37:53,100
um uh her name is should I say her name

1832
01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:55,460
on the air

1833
01:38:03,709 --> 01:37:59,600
Eugene she said her dad's name is Eugene

1834
01:38:07,490 --> 01:38:03,719
Eugene Uncle Gene yeah oh you were just

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01:38:08,990 --> 01:38:07,500
a baby when I saw you so that this is

1836
01:38:11,709 --> 01:38:09,000
crazy

1837
01:38:13,910 --> 01:38:11,719
wow she has an older brother named Bobby

1838
01:38:19,129 --> 01:38:13,920
do you have an older brother named Bobby

1839
01:38:25,970 --> 01:38:22,129
oh she said yes her older brother's name

1840
01:38:28,970 --> 01:38:25,980
is Bobby wow to smoke

1841
01:38:30,830 --> 01:38:28,980
because we used to go out Uncle Gene and

1842
01:38:34,070 --> 01:38:30,840
Aunt Patsy

1843
01:38:36,649 --> 01:38:34,080
the mother's name is Patsy lived out in

1844
01:38:39,770 --> 01:38:36,659
the country so it was a drive of about

1845
01:38:42,470 --> 01:38:39,780
40 50 miles outside of Chicago

1846
01:38:44,390 --> 01:38:42,480
so we seldom saw them but when we did

1847
01:38:48,830 --> 01:38:44,400
the whole family came everybody brought

1848
01:38:51,970 --> 01:38:48,840
their kids and it was it was a good time

1849
01:38:56,330 --> 01:38:51,980
and Camelot was the was

1850
01:38:59,330 --> 01:38:56,340
a baby the last time I was there

1851
01:39:01,430 --> 01:38:59,340
that's wild it's it's a it's a small

1852
01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:01,440
world and see that's the that's the

1853
01:39:05,990 --> 01:39:04,320
thing you know you know Roy just like

1854
01:39:12,649 --> 01:39:06,000
you

1855
01:39:15,290 --> 01:39:12,659
it's a it's a big audience it's a big

1856
01:39:18,530 --> 01:39:15,300
world and the media

1857
01:39:20,870 --> 01:39:18,540
um uh people do what you know how many

1858
01:39:22,330 --> 01:39:20,880
people sent you letters you know your

1859
01:39:25,430 --> 01:39:22,340
friend uh

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01:39:27,770 --> 01:39:25,440
from Germany France

1861
01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:27,780
South America

1862
01:39:33,110 --> 01:39:30,480
all over the world the show has played

1863
01:39:35,510 --> 01:39:33,120
everywhere the Invaders

1864
01:39:37,970 --> 01:39:35,520
and I get letters from people who watch

1865
01:39:40,189 --> 01:39:37,980
the show and they were children

1866
01:39:43,129 --> 01:39:40,199
and they said I grew up loving you and

1867
01:39:46,010 --> 01:39:43,139
they say beautiful things and I have to

1868
01:39:48,430 --> 01:39:46,020
write back and say hello let's

1869
01:39:50,890 --> 01:39:48,440
you know let's know each other

1870
01:39:54,290 --> 01:39:50,900
it's it's amazing

1871
01:39:56,990 --> 01:39:54,300
to this day I still get mail

1872
01:39:59,940 --> 01:39:57,000
I can only imagine oh Pamela said it was

1873
01:39:59,950 --> 01:40:04,330
[Laughter]

1874
01:40:11,510 --> 01:40:08,270
her mother so she was a deer and she

1875
01:40:13,850 --> 01:40:11,520
always made good things to eat

1876
01:40:22,430 --> 01:40:13,860
she said uh

1877
01:40:26,270 --> 01:40:22,440
whoa I just talked to Carol Chris uh two

1878
01:40:29,209 --> 01:40:26,280
weeks ago wow how's she feeling yeah

1879
01:40:31,510 --> 01:40:29,219
well uh she's in the chat room so I'll

1880
01:40:34,850 --> 01:40:31,520
let you know in just a second

1881
01:40:36,530 --> 01:40:34,860
oh man this is awesome hey uh okay right

1882
01:40:38,810 --> 01:40:36,540
let me ask you a question because we

1883
01:40:41,510 --> 01:40:38,820
started to touch upon this uh before the

1884
01:40:44,990 --> 01:40:41,520
break I'm enjoying the family reunion

1885
01:40:48,709 --> 01:40:45,000
though uh this is pretty cool is do you

1886
01:40:52,510 --> 01:40:48,719
think the world is ready to uh to hear

1887
01:40:55,850 --> 01:40:52,520
the truth about uh UFOs and E.T contact

1888
01:40:58,310 --> 01:40:55,860
uh if if disclosure and everything

1889
01:41:01,910 --> 01:40:58,320
continues like it is

1890
01:41:08,209 --> 01:41:04,250
I believe if we could handle the truth

1891
01:41:11,870 --> 01:41:08,219
it's a matter of How It's disclosed

1892
01:41:15,530 --> 01:41:11,880
that might bring all of us together all

1893
01:41:17,450 --> 01:41:15,540
of us we're all related in some distant

1894
01:41:19,550 --> 01:41:17,460
fashion

1895
01:41:24,350 --> 01:41:19,560
and let's love each other or at least

1896
01:41:29,330 --> 01:41:26,810
the planet is covered with hate blankets

1897
01:41:31,550 --> 01:41:29,340
it's terrible yes

1898
01:41:32,410 --> 01:41:31,560
you're right about that though

1899
01:41:35,689 --> 01:41:32,420
um

1900
01:41:38,270 --> 01:41:35,699
we we are Earthlings

1901
01:41:41,109 --> 01:41:38,280
right we represent the planet Earth we

1902
01:41:45,229 --> 01:41:41,119
don't represent countries and religions

1903
01:41:48,470 --> 01:41:45,239
we are all earthlings and we need to

1904
01:41:50,930 --> 01:41:48,480
accept that if if E.T arrives here what

1905
01:41:55,609 --> 01:41:50,940
we're going to uh oh uh I'm an American

1906
01:41:58,370 --> 01:41:55,619
uh you know I'm I'm I'm German it's the

1907
01:42:00,229 --> 01:41:58,380
et's not doesn't care about that they're

1908
01:42:02,629 --> 01:42:00,239
here for Earth

1909
01:42:04,189 --> 01:42:02,639
right and we need to understand that and

1910
01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:04,199
I don't think we get it you're right

1911
01:42:10,189 --> 01:42:07,440
though if it's disclosed maybe it will

1912
01:42:12,709 --> 01:42:10,199
just bring us together

1913
01:42:13,570 --> 01:42:12,719
yeah

1914
01:42:16,209 --> 01:42:13,580
um

1915
01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:16,219
Pamela just said

1916
01:42:22,490 --> 01:42:18,960
make peace perhaps

1917
01:42:25,490 --> 01:42:22,500
which we have known very little

1918
01:42:27,830 --> 01:42:25,500
on this planet

1919
01:42:29,510 --> 01:42:27,840
and peace would be so comforting to

1920
01:42:32,149 --> 01:42:29,520
everyone

1921
01:42:35,330 --> 01:42:32,159
and it could be profitable everybody

1922
01:42:39,709 --> 01:42:35,340
would enjoy the profit of it

1923
01:42:45,910 --> 01:42:43,310
Pamela just said Pamela just said Patsy

1924
01:42:48,470 --> 01:42:45,920
lived to a hundred

1925
01:42:53,510 --> 01:42:48,480
oh yeah yeah

1926
01:42:55,910 --> 01:42:53,520
so it figures because she was uh not a

1927
01:42:59,030 --> 01:42:55,920
tough woman but she was a hearty woman

1928
01:43:02,750 --> 01:42:59,040
she was just wonderful and there was

1929
01:43:07,790 --> 01:43:05,510
Let's see we called her aunt Patsy yeah

1930
01:43:09,229 --> 01:43:07,800
it's what she just said and Patsy lived

1931
01:43:11,270 --> 01:43:09,239
to a hundred

1932
01:43:13,490 --> 01:43:11,280
um do you remember

1933
01:43:16,250 --> 01:43:13,500
um going back a few years

1934
01:43:20,209 --> 01:43:16,260
when Ronald Reagan made that famous

1935
01:43:23,209 --> 01:43:20,219
speech at the United Nations uh when he

1936
01:43:26,810 --> 01:43:23,219
said that maybe we need an alien

1937
01:43:28,990 --> 01:43:26,820
invasion right to bring us all together

1938
01:43:32,830 --> 01:43:29,000
I always felt that

1939
01:43:36,609 --> 01:43:32,840
uh Reagan at that time he knew something

1940
01:43:39,169 --> 01:43:36,619
and he was trying to get it out there

1941
01:43:43,189 --> 01:43:39,179
yeah yeah he was like throwing a

1942
01:43:46,910 --> 01:43:43,199
softball right an underarm pitch to to

1943
01:43:50,870 --> 01:43:49,189
yeah well if they were more preaching

1944
01:43:54,649 --> 01:43:50,880
like that

1945
01:43:56,270 --> 01:43:54,659
uh planning the idea of

1946
01:43:59,629 --> 01:43:56,280
peace

1947
01:44:03,530 --> 01:43:59,639
in any fashion

1948
01:44:06,050 --> 01:44:03,540
would be a benefit to all of us

1949
01:44:08,990 --> 01:44:06,060
are you aware

1950
01:44:12,470 --> 01:44:09,000
um uh I know you've been busy the last

1951
01:44:14,030 --> 01:44:12,480
six months or a year but but our last

1952
01:44:18,649 --> 01:44:14,040
year

1953
01:44:23,169 --> 01:44:18,659
um uh in August there was a report on

1954
01:44:26,149 --> 01:44:23,179
UFOs that was presented uh to Congress

1955
01:44:30,649 --> 01:44:26,159
uh to Capitol Hill

1956
01:44:33,890 --> 01:44:30,659
um from uh odni

1957
01:44:36,169 --> 01:44:33,900
um uh the defense intelligence agency

1958
01:44:41,209 --> 01:44:36,179
about UFOs in the current state of

1959
01:44:45,709 --> 01:44:41,219
things and then a bill uh was passed uh

1960
01:44:50,689 --> 01:44:45,719
the um uh and and part of the bill it

1961
01:44:53,209 --> 01:44:50,699
was uh the budget uh uh the um uh and

1962
01:44:56,410 --> 01:44:53,219
part of the budget was that there was

1963
01:44:59,570 --> 01:44:56,420
going to be two more reports written in

1964
01:45:03,229 --> 01:44:59,580
2022 one that was going to be public and

1965
01:45:05,870 --> 01:45:03,239
one that was going to be classified it

1966
01:45:07,189 --> 01:45:05,880
was supposed to be released this week it

1967
01:45:08,750 --> 01:45:07,199
was supposed to be released yesterday

1968
01:45:10,609 --> 01:45:08,760
Roy

1969
01:45:14,390 --> 01:45:10,619
um it now they're saying that it it

1970
01:45:15,590 --> 01:45:14,400
should be released uh the unclassified

1971
01:45:17,570 --> 01:45:15,600
version

1972
01:45:20,930 --> 01:45:17,580
um by this Friday

1973
01:45:22,729 --> 01:45:20,940
is why why do you think that the the

1974
01:45:26,149 --> 01:45:22,739
government and I'm talking about the

1975
01:45:29,149 --> 01:45:26,159
Pentagon the military uh the Senate uh

1976
01:45:33,169 --> 01:45:29,159
all of these intelligence agencies why

1977
01:45:36,109 --> 01:45:33,179
are they suddenly our friend when for

1978
01:45:39,189 --> 01:45:36,119
the last 70 years they've been teasing

1979
01:45:41,270 --> 01:45:39,199
and ridiculing Witnesses

1980
01:45:43,250 --> 01:45:41,280
you know what I mean and suddenly

1981
01:45:45,530 --> 01:45:43,260
they're acting like there are buddies

1982
01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:45,540
right now why do you think that's

1983
01:45:52,790 --> 01:45:47,760
happening

1984
01:45:53,750 --> 01:45:52,800
well is that not a a sign of the seed of

1985
01:45:57,109 --> 01:45:53,760
peace

1986
01:45:58,850 --> 01:45:57,119
coming could be that they're relaxing

1987
01:46:00,410 --> 01:45:58,860
and saying

1988
01:46:03,950 --> 01:46:00,420
help

1989
01:46:05,990 --> 01:46:03,960
I'll tell you what I know and I'll need

1990
01:46:10,070 --> 01:46:06,000
your help

1991
01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:10,080
well of course we'll help right

1992
01:46:15,350 --> 01:46:12,960
if you're talking peace I'll sit there

1993
01:46:18,050 --> 01:46:15,360
forever and listen to what you had to

1994
01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:20,390
you need it yeah you think it's an olive

1995
01:46:26,090 --> 01:46:23,040
branch so to speak

1996
01:46:29,270 --> 01:46:26,100
I sure hope so Jimmy yeah I hope so

1997
01:46:32,930 --> 01:46:29,280
that's an interesting way to look at it

1998
01:46:35,090 --> 01:46:32,940
um there's I I have a another take on it

1999
01:46:39,850 --> 01:46:35,100
though that I want to suggest I don't I

2000
01:46:43,490 --> 01:46:39,860
don't have any secrets I'm not but maybe

2001
01:46:46,070 --> 01:46:43,500
Washington in general right just just

2002
01:46:48,290 --> 01:46:46,080
Washington in general knows that

2003
01:46:52,010 --> 01:46:48,300
something is going to happen

2004
01:46:54,709 --> 01:46:52,020
and they need to get out in front of it

2005
01:46:56,510 --> 01:46:54,719
you know what I mean whether I don't

2006
01:46:58,850 --> 01:46:56,520
know yeah

2007
01:47:02,810 --> 01:46:58,860
something inevitable

2008
01:47:08,629 --> 01:47:06,530
that's possible you know listen uh the

2009
01:47:10,250 --> 01:47:08,639
aliens have been watching us for a long

2010
01:47:12,649 --> 01:47:10,260
time

2011
01:47:14,149 --> 01:47:12,659
and trying to figure out how the hell

2012
01:47:16,850 --> 01:47:14,159
we're going to get along with these

2013
01:47:23,750 --> 01:47:19,250
even if we want to land here to get

2014
01:47:25,850 --> 01:47:23,760
supplies and go on to another star

2015
01:47:31,850 --> 01:47:25,860
how do we get by with these people

2016
01:47:39,350 --> 01:47:35,149
yeah we we've always yeah because we

2017
01:47:41,750 --> 01:47:39,360
shoot first right right yeah yeah we

2018
01:47:43,669 --> 01:47:41,760
shoot first yeah we shoot first and ask

2019
01:47:44,950 --> 01:47:43,679
questions later

2020
01:47:48,410 --> 01:47:44,960
yeah

2021
01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:48,420
there was um uh I want to share this

2022
01:47:53,810 --> 01:47:49,679
with you I'm going to make it really

2023
01:47:56,090 --> 01:47:53,820
quick uh about 10 years ago uh maybe a

2024
01:47:59,090 --> 01:47:56,100
little longer than that there was a a

2025
01:48:04,010 --> 01:47:59,100
hurricane a huge massive tropical storm

2026
01:48:05,030 --> 01:48:04,020
off of the west coast of India but out

2027
01:48:10,129 --> 01:48:05,040
there

2028
01:48:14,570 --> 01:48:10,139
is an island and on that island is the

2029
01:48:15,890 --> 01:48:14,580
one of the last cultures that has had no

2030
01:48:18,169 --> 01:48:15,900
contact

2031
01:48:22,370 --> 01:48:18,179
with the outside world

2032
01:48:26,330 --> 01:48:22,380
and so there are laws in place that you

2033
01:48:29,270 --> 01:48:26,340
can't you can't you can't visit no

2034
01:48:32,169 --> 01:48:29,280
planes or helicopters can fly over the

2035
01:48:35,750 --> 01:48:32,179
island they don't want any technology

2036
01:48:39,830 --> 01:48:35,760
shown to this culture they want them

2037
01:48:41,689 --> 01:48:39,840
isolated and left alone okay so but this

2038
01:48:46,250 --> 01:48:41,699
hurricane hits

2039
01:48:50,270 --> 01:48:46,260
and the prime minister of India says Ah

2040
01:48:53,090 --> 01:48:50,280
maybe we should do a flyover just to

2041
01:48:55,490 --> 01:48:53,100
check on them right let's just go and

2042
01:48:57,310 --> 01:48:55,500
make sure that everybody's okay so they

2043
01:49:00,410 --> 01:48:57,320
did yeah

2044
01:49:03,770 --> 01:49:00,420
and do you know what happened

2045
01:49:05,990 --> 01:49:03,780
what they they shot arrows at the

2046
01:49:08,270 --> 01:49:06,000
helicopters

2047
01:49:10,310 --> 01:49:08,280
they literally they didn't even know

2048
01:49:11,510 --> 01:49:10,320
what they they'd never seen a helicopter

2049
01:49:13,669 --> 01:49:11,520
before

2050
01:49:17,390 --> 01:49:13,679
but they're throwing Spears and shooting

2051
01:49:20,149 --> 01:49:17,400
arrows at it it's like Roy it's part of

2052
01:49:23,570 --> 01:49:20,159
our DNA right we just shoot first ask

2053
01:49:27,430 --> 01:49:23,580
questions later so if if E.T arrives

2054
01:49:29,930 --> 01:49:27,440
here over Los Angeles

2055
01:49:32,109 --> 01:49:29,940
we're probably going to shoot at it I

2056
01:49:35,689 --> 01:49:32,119
don't think we're going to have welcome

2057
01:49:38,030 --> 01:49:35,699
you know what it was called

2058
01:49:39,770 --> 01:49:38,040
how do they call the island I I I'll

2059
01:49:42,410 --> 01:49:39,780
I'll shoot you an email

2060
01:49:43,810 --> 01:49:42,420
I'll I'll I'll give you all the

2061
01:49:47,689 --> 01:49:43,820
information

2062
01:49:52,490 --> 01:49:47,699
it sounds like uh an alien base that is

2063
01:49:55,370 --> 01:49:52,500
not a pro not a a a an acceptable one

2064
01:49:57,890 --> 01:49:55,380
it's like an enemy alien base yeah right

2065
01:50:00,169 --> 01:49:57,900
right we're still using arrows yeah

2066
01:50:03,050 --> 01:50:00,179
exactly exactly

2067
01:50:04,189 --> 01:50:03,060
um I I wanted to uh run this thought by

2068
01:50:08,450 --> 01:50:04,199
you

2069
01:50:11,930 --> 01:50:08,460
which is this there there are rumors

2070
01:50:16,250 --> 01:50:11,940
um that the United States Navy knows

2071
01:50:19,609 --> 01:50:16,260
where this underground underwater

2072
01:50:22,550 --> 01:50:19,619
ET base is out in the Atlantic Ocean

2073
01:50:24,350 --> 01:50:22,560
they have triangulated it uh they've

2074
01:50:27,050 --> 01:50:24,360
gotten the frequencies down and they

2075
01:50:28,729 --> 01:50:27,060
know where these crafts are coming and

2076
01:50:31,850 --> 01:50:28,739
going

2077
01:50:34,129 --> 01:50:31,860
um from our ocean would that surprise

2078
01:50:40,910 --> 01:50:37,850
no it wouldn't uh it sounds suspicious

2079
01:50:42,770 --> 01:50:40,920
and it sounds very military and what

2080
01:50:45,950 --> 01:50:42,780
they need is a little advice leave

2081
01:50:46,930 --> 01:50:45,960
flowers around the triangle and maybe a

2082
01:50:49,250 --> 01:50:46,940
note

2083
01:50:51,410 --> 01:50:49,260
saying I'd love to have lunch with you

2084
01:50:54,229 --> 01:50:51,420
what do you say

2085
01:50:55,970 --> 01:50:54,239
do you think um you you brought up

2086
01:50:57,229 --> 01:50:55,980
something earlier

2087
01:51:01,189 --> 01:50:57,239
um that

2088
01:51:05,870 --> 01:51:01,199
uh E.T may need resources right maybe

2089
01:51:08,330 --> 01:51:05,880
this is like a gas station and and water

2090
01:51:10,669 --> 01:51:08,340
and and other things there have been

2091
01:51:13,609 --> 01:51:10,679
many sightings over the years of of

2092
01:51:16,070 --> 01:51:13,619
craft over the oceans uh going back to

2093
01:51:20,810 --> 01:51:16,080
the late 1800s right there was the the

2094
01:51:23,870 --> 01:51:20,820
great airships uh were seen uh with

2095
01:51:26,629 --> 01:51:23,880
pipes and tubes in rivers in the United

2096
01:51:28,310 --> 01:51:26,639
States 20 years before the Wright

2097
01:51:30,830 --> 01:51:28,320
brothers

2098
01:51:34,209 --> 01:51:30,840
um do you think that maybe what's going

2099
01:51:38,209 --> 01:51:34,219
on that E.T could hide in the oceans

2100
01:51:41,209 --> 01:51:38,219
well sure you know you if I came from

2101
01:51:44,930 --> 01:51:41,219
another planet and I flew around planet

2102
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:44,940
Earth just to observe Behavior

2103
01:51:52,970 --> 01:51:49,679
it's cut it's chaos on this planet

2104
01:51:54,770 --> 01:51:52,980
one country lives in a different way

2105
01:51:56,570 --> 01:51:54,780
they dress differently they have

2106
01:51:58,970 --> 01:51:56,580
different morals

2107
01:52:01,910 --> 01:51:58,980
different laws

2108
01:52:04,609 --> 01:52:01,920
some of them are violent others are very

2109
01:52:07,609 --> 01:52:04,619
peaceful and they keep their peace

2110
01:52:09,410 --> 01:52:07,619
what the hell is this this is Humanity

2111
01:52:11,090 --> 01:52:09,420
I'm dealing with they don't know the

2112
01:52:13,070 --> 01:52:11,100
difference between countries right a

2113
01:52:16,910 --> 01:52:13,080
visitor

2114
01:52:18,530 --> 01:52:16,920
you just fly to 150 miles this way and

2115
01:52:22,550 --> 01:52:18,540
you're in another country another

2116
01:52:25,609 --> 01:52:22,560
Behavior you know the costume

2117
01:52:30,430 --> 01:52:25,619
different customs

2118
01:52:33,050 --> 01:52:30,440
what are these people all about uh

2119
01:52:35,870 --> 01:52:33,060
I don't know I just imagine being an

2120
01:52:38,330 --> 01:52:35,880
alien visiting this planet and I would

2121
01:52:40,910 --> 01:52:38,340
be dumbfounded I wouldn't know what the

2122
01:52:45,050 --> 01:52:40,920
hell to do or how to do it well if if

2123
01:52:48,830 --> 01:52:45,060
you and I Roy uh you Don and I

2124
01:52:51,649 --> 01:52:48,840
if we if we jump on a ship and we go to

2125
01:52:55,790 --> 01:52:51,659
another planet right and and we're

2126
01:52:57,950 --> 01:52:55,800
observing them and and we see this this

2127
01:53:01,609 --> 01:52:57,960
tribal effect that they're fighting

2128
01:53:04,550 --> 01:53:01,619
amongst each other and they haven't got

2129
01:53:06,109 --> 01:53:04,560
it figured out why would we want to

2130
01:53:10,250 --> 01:53:06,119
visit that planet

2131
01:53:13,370 --> 01:53:10,260
you you wouldn't let exactly next we you

2132
01:53:19,030 --> 01:53:13,380
wouldn't let me land that ship would you

2133
01:53:25,250 --> 01:53:22,189
that's exactly right that's exactly

2134
01:53:28,370 --> 01:53:25,260
right that's exactly right what a what a

2135
01:53:31,550 --> 01:53:28,380
great conversation tonight Roy and um I

2136
01:53:33,169 --> 01:53:31,560
wanted to ask you uh uh before uh we

2137
01:53:37,850 --> 01:53:33,179
wrap up

2138
01:53:39,830 --> 01:53:37,860
um the the appearances on uh your career

2139
01:53:41,810 --> 01:53:39,840
never ended right if you know what I

2140
01:53:43,729 --> 01:53:41,820
mean it just kept going and going and

2141
01:53:47,870 --> 01:53:43,739
going and going

2142
01:53:51,050 --> 01:53:47,880
um if if you if if Invaders part three

2143
01:53:52,550 --> 01:53:51,060
because it there was a a new version of

2144
01:53:53,390 --> 01:53:52,560
the Invaders

2145
01:53:57,169 --> 01:53:53,400
um

2146
01:54:01,010 --> 01:53:57,179
would would you do it if if the

2147
01:54:07,370 --> 01:54:04,010
yeah you have to read it and know who's

2148
01:54:11,930 --> 01:54:07,380
going to be associated with it you know

2149
01:54:15,590 --> 01:54:11,940
if everybody is on the same page

2150
01:54:18,530 --> 01:54:15,600
as far as truth is concerned

2151
01:54:29,390 --> 01:54:18,540
uh

2152
01:54:32,270 --> 01:54:29,400
called nope n-o-p-e nope

2153
01:54:34,370 --> 01:54:32,280
and check this out

2154
01:54:35,990 --> 01:54:34,380
um you live in the valley I'm in the

2155
01:54:39,770 --> 01:54:36,000
valley right we talked about this

2156
01:54:43,850 --> 01:54:39,780
earlier nope takes place it's it's it's

2157
01:54:45,709 --> 01:54:43,860
an alien uh E.T movie it takes place in

2158
01:54:48,410 --> 01:54:45,719
Agua Dolce

2159
01:54:50,270 --> 01:54:48,420
agua Dolce you know right up the road

2160
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:50,280
from where you are right now right it's

2161
01:54:57,470 --> 01:54:54,000
30 miles away uh agua Dolce yeah and it

2162
01:55:00,950 --> 01:54:57,480
seems to me uh Roy that just like with

2163
01:55:03,770 --> 01:55:00,960
the Invaders and uh Close Encounters of

2164
01:55:07,310 --> 01:55:03,780
the Third Kind and these these films

2165
01:55:09,470 --> 01:55:07,320
that are presented to us that it seems

2166
01:55:12,350 --> 01:55:09,480
like somebody's in the know

2167
01:55:15,590 --> 01:55:12,360
right that there is something that is

2168
01:55:17,810 --> 01:55:15,600
being shown uh to the public but it's

2169
01:55:20,450 --> 01:55:17,820
done through mass media and it's done

2170
01:55:22,430 --> 01:55:20,460
through entertainment and I see the

2171
01:55:25,790 --> 01:55:22,440
movie nope and that's exactly what I

2172
01:55:28,310 --> 01:55:25,800
think is going on that the the

2173
01:55:31,790 --> 01:55:28,320
somebody knows and the only way to get

2174
01:55:35,390 --> 01:55:31,800
this out is through uh film and

2175
01:55:37,970 --> 01:55:35,400
television so the masses would will

2176
01:55:40,729 --> 01:55:37,980
understand and and get them warmed up to

2177
01:55:42,590 --> 01:55:40,739
the idea so they're not surprised when

2178
01:55:47,270 --> 01:55:42,600
it happens slowly creeping into

2179
01:55:50,209 --> 01:55:47,280
everyone's minds and imaginations yes

2180
01:55:53,090 --> 01:55:50,219
he moved into this place here where I

2181
01:55:56,030 --> 01:55:53,100
live where it's Assisted Living

2182
01:55:58,970 --> 01:55:56,040
and it's like a hotel you know but most

2183
01:56:02,629 --> 01:55:58,980
of the people the residents are aged and

2184
01:56:04,850 --> 01:56:02,639
anywhere from me you know 75 to 90.

2185
01:56:12,290 --> 01:56:04,860
and

2186
01:56:14,930 --> 01:56:12,300
that guy over there with the beard looks

2187
01:56:19,310 --> 01:56:17,090
and I asked questions about him and they

2188
01:56:23,570 --> 01:56:19,320
said his name is David Vincent

2189
01:56:27,109 --> 01:56:23,580
oh [\h__\h] no way no way all he can talk

2190
01:56:29,030 --> 01:56:27,119
about is UFOs and aliens and so they

2191
01:56:31,010 --> 01:56:29,040
treat him to keep them drugged and you

2192
01:56:32,750 --> 01:56:31,020
know they don't pay much attention to

2193
01:56:35,090 --> 01:56:32,760
them

2194
01:56:41,090 --> 01:56:35,100
and I get to know David Vincent and

2195
01:56:48,890 --> 01:56:43,430
that's good

2196
01:56:50,649 --> 01:56:48,900
15 second elevator pitch and that one

2197
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works

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you so much and uh I can't wait for you

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to come back on the show and uh we'll

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we'll pick one subject and we'll just do

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the Deep dive

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right anytime Jimmy I enjoyed this this

2203
01:57:16,430 --> 01:57:12,000
is It's just tremendous and and again

2204
01:57:18,109 --> 01:57:16,440
thank you and uh I tried and yes my

2205
01:57:22,010 --> 01:57:18,119
friend Donald there I don't know if he's

2206
01:57:24,950 --> 01:57:22,020
gonna bring him to uh no Don's out

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01:57:28,250 --> 01:57:24,960
dance out that's it he's he's been fired

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01:57:30,470 --> 01:57:28,260
as a co-host hey Roy behave and be well

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01:57:33,410 --> 01:57:30,480
my friend and uh I'm gonna come visit

2210
01:57:35,330 --> 01:57:33,420
you I'm gonna bring you some stuff uh to

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01:57:38,089 --> 01:57:35,340
sign for me okay

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01:57:40,550 --> 01:57:38,099
cool very good thank you so much Roy

2213
01:57:43,729 --> 01:57:40,560
behave and be well

2214
01:57:46,149 --> 01:57:43,739
yes sir thank you Jimmy thank you thank

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01:57:52,550 --> 01:57:50,510
no he's there he's waving he's waving he

2216
01:57:55,490 --> 01:57:52,560
can't see you Don see I told you Roy

2217
01:57:59,089 --> 01:57:55,500
he's straight fired he's straight fired

2218
01:58:04,070 --> 01:57:59,099
hey Roy behave and my cousins Pamela God

2219
01:58:05,209 --> 01:58:04,080
if Pamela just she just said this was

2220
01:58:08,390 --> 01:58:05,219
fun

2221
01:58:11,629 --> 01:58:08,400
sending love from the family there you

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01:58:14,089 --> 01:58:11,639
go oh beautiful beautiful what a great I

2223
01:58:18,050 --> 01:58:14,099
love you dear what a great night I held

2224
01:58:19,669 --> 01:58:18,060
you as a baby I did yeah it's crazy it's

2225
01:58:22,910 --> 01:58:19,679
a small world I wouldn't want to paint

2226
01:58:25,370 --> 01:58:22,920
it but it's pretty small

2227
01:58:26,270 --> 01:58:25,380
thank you thank you so much Roy thank

2228
01:58:31,910 --> 01:58:26,280
you

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01:58:33,890 --> 01:58:31,920
perfect absolute perfect night I'm gonna

2230
01:58:36,589 --> 01:58:33,900
take a quick break and I'll swing back

2231
01:58:39,350 --> 01:58:36,599
and I'll bring my co-host in uh his name

2232
01:58:41,030 --> 01:58:39,360
is Don Schmidt this is Fade to Black our

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mirrors Jimmy Church oh you know what I

2234
01:58:45,109 --> 01:58:43,560
you know what I you know what I you guys

2235
01:58:47,629 --> 01:58:45,119
saw what I just did

2236
01:58:48,970 --> 01:58:47,639
I left I left Don out of the entire

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01:58:51,960 --> 01:58:48,980
segment

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01:58:57,310 --> 01:58:51,970
I'll be right back

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yeah Welcome Back Fade to Black I am

2330
02:03:49,739 --> 02:03:54,430
I had a co-host tonight

2331
02:04:01,490 --> 02:03:58,910
oh man Don here's the thing here's the

2332
02:04:05,709 --> 02:04:01,500
thing I got so wrapped up I got so

2333
02:04:09,010 --> 02:04:05,719
sucked into it I forgot you were there

2334
02:04:11,149 --> 02:04:09,020
has that ever happened to you before

2335
02:04:13,669 --> 02:04:11,159
sometimes I've had that effect

2336
02:04:18,290 --> 02:04:13,679
especially with women but never with you

2337
02:04:20,870 --> 02:04:18,300
again man I apologize man I apologize

2338
02:04:23,330 --> 02:04:20,880
well it was so funny when uh Roy didn't

2339
02:04:26,629 --> 02:04:23,340
forget about me he still said goodbye to

2340
02:04:29,870 --> 02:04:26,639
me so yeah when Roy goes is Don still

2341
02:04:31,910 --> 02:04:29,880
there yeah I abandoned him right yeah

2342
02:04:37,070 --> 02:04:31,920
Don's right here yeah no problem and

2343
02:04:40,250 --> 02:04:37,080
then I realized I I spaced the entire oh

2344
02:04:44,330 --> 02:04:40,260
man I apologize I have to though again

2345
02:04:46,070 --> 02:04:44,340
thank you Jimmy because Roy's not I mean

2346
02:04:50,030 --> 02:04:46,080
he's getting older

2347
02:04:52,370 --> 02:04:50,040
and as so many of our our friends and

2348
02:04:56,390 --> 02:04:52,380
those who have passed away who are no

2349
02:04:59,750 --> 02:04:56,400
longer with us and you have to

2350
02:05:02,390 --> 02:04:59,760
so often these people are forgotten

2351
02:05:04,910 --> 02:05:02,400
and they still have a lifetime of

2352
02:05:08,390 --> 02:05:04,920
accumulated wisdom the knowledge that

2353
02:05:11,390 --> 02:05:08,400
they have acquired through the years and

2354
02:05:14,270 --> 02:05:11,400
we stop asking them questions we stop

2355
02:05:16,310 --> 02:05:14,280
treating them as though you know they

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02:05:17,870 --> 02:05:16,320
even deserve our respect

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02:05:21,770 --> 02:05:17,880
and

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02:05:22,669 --> 02:05:21,780
um so I I I tip my hat to you for giving

2359
02:05:25,010 --> 02:05:22,679
Roy

2360
02:05:26,270 --> 02:05:25,020
you know this opportunity he doesn't do

2361
02:05:28,070 --> 02:05:26,280
these

2362
02:05:31,970 --> 02:05:28,080
any longer

2363
02:05:33,410 --> 02:05:31,980
and um the fact that when he what I

2364
02:05:35,750 --> 02:05:33,420
brought it up to him

2365
02:05:39,410 --> 02:05:35,760
a number of times and I said I know just

2366
02:05:41,689 --> 02:05:39,420
the person who would love to have you on

2367
02:05:46,910 --> 02:05:41,699
and so I I personally thank you thank

2368
02:05:49,790 --> 02:05:46,920
you Jimmy man you know and as here's

2369
02:05:52,850 --> 02:05:49,800
here's here's the here's the rub here's

2370
02:05:54,649 --> 02:05:52,860
the real truth uh to all of this the

2371
02:05:58,910 --> 02:05:54,659
impact

2372
02:06:02,390 --> 02:05:58,920
um that that man has had on so many

2373
02:06:06,530 --> 02:06:02,400
lives yes right and I'm just one right

2374
02:06:10,250 --> 02:06:06,540
I'm just one but I I had told you uh

2375
02:06:12,410 --> 02:06:10,260
many years ago I said uh uh we we were

2376
02:06:14,930 --> 02:06:12,420
talking about the Invaders we weren't

2377
02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:14,940
talking about Roy it was you that

2378
02:06:20,450 --> 02:06:17,760
dropped the bomb on me when he said Roy

2379
02:06:26,290 --> 02:06:20,460
and I we go we go we go way back

2380
02:06:31,490 --> 02:06:26,300
and I am just one of millions right

2381
02:06:34,669 --> 02:06:31,500
imagine being I mean arriving at LAX and

2382
02:06:36,950 --> 02:06:34,679
getting picked up by Roy thinnes at the

2383
02:06:38,030 --> 02:06:36,960
time he was just he was driving his

2384
02:06:41,030 --> 02:06:38,040
Jaguar

2385
02:06:44,570 --> 02:06:41,040
and we're driving through Beverly Hills

2386
02:06:47,629 --> 02:06:44,580
and people are recognizing his car

2387
02:06:51,229 --> 02:06:47,639
and they're driving by and sticking the

2388
02:06:55,129 --> 02:06:51,239
extended pinky which was one of the uh

2389
02:06:58,129 --> 02:06:55,139
signs that it was an alien

2390
02:07:00,530 --> 02:06:58,139
because they had this mutated fourth

2391
02:07:02,629 --> 02:07:00,540
finger right and that would be the one

2392
02:07:05,689 --> 02:07:02,639
thing that David Vincent his character

2393
02:07:09,589 --> 02:07:05,699
would typically be on the lookout for

2394
02:07:12,830 --> 02:07:09,599
the alien hand yes hated Pinky and so to

2395
02:07:14,990 --> 02:07:12,840
see people driving by and just sticking

2396
02:07:18,290 --> 02:07:15,000
their arm out and with that extended

2397
02:07:20,030 --> 02:07:18,300
pinky like it was a salute thank you Mr

2398
02:07:23,149 --> 02:07:20,040
thinniss

2399
02:07:26,270 --> 02:07:23,159
we respect you for what you know that

2400
02:07:28,490 --> 02:07:26,280
character represented to us and as we

2401
02:07:30,950 --> 02:07:28,500
both know our generation how many people

2402
02:07:33,530 --> 02:07:30,960
became motivated and inspired to even

2403
02:07:36,370 --> 02:07:33,540
get into the field because of that

2404
02:07:39,410 --> 02:07:36,380
series because of Roy thinness

2405
02:07:42,169 --> 02:07:39,420
absolutely and the the tonight's

2406
02:07:44,990 --> 02:07:42,179
conversation just uh it it meant so much

2407
02:07:47,930 --> 02:07:45,000
to me but I could tell uh you know that

2408
02:07:50,810 --> 02:07:47,940
the audience you know they they they get

2409
02:07:52,609 --> 02:07:50,820
it right and uh they're just they're

2410
02:07:56,629 --> 02:07:52,619
just along for the ride they're they're

2411
02:07:59,930 --> 02:07:56,639
hearing uh you know a conversation uh

2412
02:08:03,109 --> 02:07:59,940
going down in real time you know no

2413
02:08:05,149 --> 02:08:03,119
questions nothing is prepared and and

2414
02:08:07,070 --> 02:08:05,159
that was it you know it was it was

2415
02:08:09,050 --> 02:08:07,080
tremendous I want to share something

2416
02:08:11,089 --> 02:08:09,060
with you really quick

2417
02:08:16,609 --> 02:08:11,099
um I'm gonna pull this up

2418
02:08:19,209 --> 02:08:16,619
um this was just posted okay and when I

2419
02:08:24,229 --> 02:08:19,219
see just posted just a few minutes ago

2420
02:08:27,169 --> 02:08:24,239
and uh as everybody knows I just uh got

2421
02:08:32,390 --> 02:08:27,179
back from Egypt and I posted I I I

2422
02:08:34,030 --> 02:08:32,400
filmed in in Luxor right and uh and I

2423
02:08:36,290 --> 02:08:34,040
did this this this

2424
02:08:39,470 --> 02:08:36,300
uh uh

2425
02:08:44,330 --> 02:08:39,480
how do I say that a selfie video of me

2426
02:08:47,450 --> 02:08:44,340
panning around Luxor at night and so

2427
02:08:49,490 --> 02:08:47,460
Mike just posted this and he said did

2428
02:08:53,450 --> 02:08:49,500
Jimmy

2429
02:08:59,089 --> 02:08:53,460
filmy UFO in Egypt right and he posted

2430
02:09:02,750 --> 02:09:01,129
I want you to look right here right over

2431
02:09:06,890 --> 02:09:02,760
my shoulder

2432
02:09:15,709 --> 02:09:11,990
what the hell is that that's that's from

2433
02:09:18,050 --> 02:09:15,719
a video that's not a still image so I'm

2434
02:09:22,990 --> 02:09:18,060
gonna go back and and look at the video

2435
02:09:26,709 --> 02:09:23,000
now and see uh what is there

2436
02:09:29,450 --> 02:09:26,719
was it a clear night was the moon yeah

2437
02:09:31,669 --> 02:09:29,460
you need to check

2438
02:09:34,370 --> 02:09:31,679
um you know was there a full moon at the

2439
02:09:36,350 --> 02:09:34,380
time that's the moon right there look

2440
02:09:39,169 --> 02:09:36,360
Don that's the Moon

2441
02:09:41,510 --> 02:09:39,179
right and this is at night and then we

2442
02:09:44,570 --> 02:09:41,520
have this this thing right here look at

2443
02:09:48,290 --> 02:09:44,580
that and that's that's exactly what

2444
02:09:53,870 --> 02:09:48,300
people have been videotaping I mean

2445
02:09:58,010 --> 02:09:55,970
um the question is I mean was there

2446
02:10:01,550 --> 02:09:58,020
movement involved that's what you have

2447
02:10:05,510 --> 02:10:01,560
to go back and check but uh the cluster

2448
02:10:09,890 --> 02:10:05,520
of Lights it's still you know triangular

2449
02:10:11,510 --> 02:10:09,900
in its formation but nonetheless uh I

2450
02:10:14,089 --> 02:10:11,520
don't think it's Skylink

2451
02:10:17,030 --> 02:10:14,099
because there have been many more lights

2452
02:10:21,169 --> 02:10:17,040
involved yeah it's low in it's low in

2453
02:10:24,350 --> 02:10:21,179
the Horizon uh that's Luxor uh in the

2454
02:10:26,689 --> 02:10:24,360
background uh that that's the moon so I

2455
02:10:29,330 --> 02:10:26,699
don't know maybe maybe it's just more

2456
02:10:32,750 --> 02:10:29,340
experience you being there but but as we

2457
02:10:34,990 --> 02:10:32,760
both know many a time people have been

2458
02:10:37,669 --> 02:10:35,000
on film and

2459
02:10:39,470 --> 02:10:37,679
they're out of nowhere they they're not

2460
02:10:42,109 --> 02:10:39,480
even aware of the fact right over their

2461
02:10:44,209 --> 02:10:42,119
shoulder something is hovering or

2462
02:10:46,609 --> 02:10:44,219
something shoots you know you know

2463
02:10:47,570 --> 02:10:46,619
through the uh through the sky behind

2464
02:10:49,490 --> 02:10:47,580
them

2465
02:10:52,729 --> 02:10:49,500
and with the eye doesn't see the camera

2466
02:10:55,189 --> 02:10:52,739
does capture right and so uh look into

2467
02:10:57,050 --> 02:10:55,199
this please I mean you may but once

2468
02:10:58,510 --> 02:10:57,060
again Jimmy you're looking in the wrong

2469
02:11:01,790 --> 02:10:58,520
direction

2470
02:11:04,669 --> 02:11:01,800
right right right right right it may be

2471
02:11:06,410 --> 02:11:04,679
a multiple exposure from a star in the

2472
02:11:09,109 --> 02:11:06,420
background

2473
02:11:11,390 --> 02:11:09,119
um but you're right though then why

2474
02:11:13,669 --> 02:11:11,400
isn't there a multiple as far as the

2475
02:11:15,250 --> 02:11:13,679
multiple exposure of the Moon

2476
02:11:17,990 --> 02:11:15,260
that's right

2477
02:11:20,629 --> 02:11:18,000
wow that's a good point

2478
02:11:25,250 --> 02:11:20,639
that's why that's why you're Don Schmidt

2479
02:11:31,729 --> 02:11:28,609
Don what do you what do you think is

2480
02:11:34,669 --> 02:11:31,739
going to happen uh with this uh report

2481
02:11:37,250 --> 02:11:34,679
when it's uh uh the unclassified version

2482
02:11:40,609 --> 02:11:37,260
is released to the public uh this week

2483
02:11:42,530 --> 02:11:40,619
do you expect any any Revelations

2484
02:11:44,810 --> 02:11:42,540
I think it's going to be the you know

2485
02:11:48,649 --> 02:11:44,820
the the same

2486
02:11:52,609 --> 02:11:48,659
type of subterfuge in that they're going

2487
02:11:55,790 --> 02:11:52,619
to acknowledge that there remains a

2488
02:11:57,770 --> 02:11:55,800
percentage of unexplains but just

2489
02:11:59,629 --> 02:11:57,780
because they're unexplained they're

2490
02:12:03,410 --> 02:11:59,639
going to fall back but if we had more

2491
02:12:05,209 --> 02:12:03,420
data if we had more information we'd

2492
02:12:07,490 --> 02:12:05,219
come up with a viable you know

2493
02:12:08,930 --> 02:12:07,500
explanation that type of thing it's the

2494
02:12:11,450 --> 02:12:08,940
same stuck record that we've been

2495
02:12:15,050 --> 02:12:11,460
listening to for 75 years

2496
02:12:17,570 --> 02:12:15,060
uh NASA for example you know this uh

2497
02:12:18,890 --> 02:12:17,580
appointment of this this panel this

2498
02:12:21,530 --> 02:12:18,900
committee now that's going to look into

2499
02:12:23,510 --> 02:12:21,540
it and I pointed out the fact that not

2500
02:12:25,910 --> 02:12:23,520
on one of these people even albeit their

2501
02:12:29,689 --> 02:12:25,920
scientists albeit they work with NASA

2502
02:12:33,050 --> 02:12:29,699
but not a one of them has a top security

2503
02:12:37,450 --> 02:12:33,060
clearance with the military so they will

2504
02:12:40,310 --> 02:12:37,460
have zero access to any classified

2505
02:12:43,850 --> 02:12:40,320
documents regarding the subject

2506
02:12:47,629 --> 02:12:43,860
so to me it's like the Condon report to

2507
02:12:50,569 --> 02:12:47,639
that you essentially get a civilian you

2508
02:12:53,209 --> 02:12:50,579
know organization to look into the the

2509
02:12:55,729 --> 02:12:53,219
subject matter and then they come up

2510
02:12:59,089 --> 02:12:55,739
with it uh you know the same type of

2511
02:13:01,189 --> 02:12:59,099
well if we had more information we might

2512
02:13:02,870 --> 02:13:01,199
if we had more funding

2513
02:13:05,390 --> 02:13:02,880
they have a hundred thousand dollars

2514
02:13:09,050 --> 02:13:05,400
over the course of nine months

2515
02:13:12,950 --> 02:13:09,060
that's nothing right as far as as the

2516
02:13:14,569 --> 02:13:12,960
government you know goes so I just I

2517
02:13:16,490 --> 02:13:14,579
hate the fact that

2518
02:13:19,310 --> 02:13:16,500
they've been stringing this along it's

2519
02:13:22,790 --> 02:13:19,320
going on Five Years it'll be five years

2520
02:13:26,390 --> 02:13:22,800
in December with another article

2521
02:13:27,530 --> 02:13:26,400
and we all expected something to Break

2522
02:13:30,770 --> 02:13:27,540
by now

2523
02:13:33,050 --> 02:13:30,780
now it still comes back to I I can't

2524
02:13:36,729 --> 02:13:33,060
emphasize enough that the boss still

2525
02:13:39,109 --> 02:13:36,739
remains in the Congressional Court

2526
02:13:42,950 --> 02:13:39,119
that Congress could

2527
02:13:45,410 --> 02:13:42,960
blow this open overnight by just we're

2528
02:13:48,470 --> 02:13:45,420
going to have hearings we're going to

2529
02:13:52,069 --> 02:13:48,480
Grant immunity to whistleblowers we're

2530
02:13:56,030 --> 02:13:52,079
going to allow Pilots or Military and

2531
02:13:58,310 --> 02:13:56,040
Commercial to finally step forward

2532
02:14:01,370 --> 02:13:58,320
and this that's where this could Domino

2533
02:14:02,810 --> 02:14:01,380
this could snowball into they're not

2534
02:14:03,890 --> 02:14:02,820
going to put this Genie back in the

2535
02:14:06,649 --> 02:14:03,900
bottom

2536
02:14:09,290 --> 02:14:06,659
and that's where I can't encourage your

2537
02:14:12,649 --> 02:14:09,300
viewers and your listeners enough

2538
02:14:14,569 --> 02:14:12,659
to put the pressure on their own elected

2539
02:14:17,930 --> 02:14:14,579
rep Representatives

2540
02:14:22,189 --> 02:14:17,940
that they need to finally Grant immunity

2541
02:14:25,129 --> 02:14:22,199
they have to provide a forum

2542
02:14:27,290 --> 02:14:25,139
possible whistleblowers to come forward

2543
02:14:30,290 --> 02:14:27,300
and tell the truth that's all we're

2544
02:14:34,430 --> 02:14:30,300
asking that's all we've ever been asking

2545
02:14:37,550 --> 02:14:34,440
you know provide a panel a venue on

2546
02:14:41,770 --> 02:14:37,560
Capitol Hill that people can just tell

2547
02:14:47,510 --> 02:14:45,050
the uh the NASA team

2548
02:14:50,510 --> 02:14:47,520
you know it looks good on paper right

2549
02:14:53,569 --> 02:14:50,520
okay Master's gonna study UFOs okay okay

2550
02:14:55,910 --> 02:14:53,579
and then you read the fine print and Don

2551
02:14:58,609 --> 02:14:55,920
you brought up the the best point

2552
02:15:00,950 --> 02:14:58,619
possible uh the lack of security

2553
02:15:03,850 --> 02:15:00,960
clearances and then you read you read

2554
02:15:05,830 --> 02:15:03,860
the fine print and it says they're only

2555
02:15:09,370 --> 02:15:05,840
reviewing

2556
02:15:12,530 --> 02:15:09,380
unclassified data

2557
02:15:14,810 --> 02:15:12,540
what that's like saying we're only going

2558
02:15:16,790 --> 02:15:14,820
to read about the Roswell Mogul balloon

2559
02:15:20,149 --> 02:15:16,800
oh we're not going to read about the

2560
02:15:22,310 --> 02:15:20,159
first explanation that it was indeed the

2561
02:15:25,310 --> 02:15:22,320
crash of a flying saucer which would

2562
02:15:28,010 --> 02:15:25,320
remain as highly classified as you know

2563
02:15:30,350 --> 02:15:28,020
they could classify but we're only going

2564
02:15:32,870 --> 02:15:30,360
to look at what is accessible what is

2565
02:15:35,870 --> 02:15:32,880
available to the General Public

2566
02:15:37,390 --> 02:15:35,880
and we know what that that amounts to no

2567
02:15:41,390 --> 02:15:37,400
physical evidence

2568
02:15:44,870 --> 02:15:41,400
no testimony of the highest ranking

2569
02:15:48,470 --> 02:15:44,880
officers sac-based officers Pilots again

2570
02:15:51,410 --> 02:15:48,480
that are describing beyond our

2571
02:15:53,750 --> 02:15:51,420
comprehension objects that totally

2572
02:15:57,649 --> 02:15:53,760
violate the laws of physics for example

2573
02:16:00,589 --> 02:15:57,659
and so again it's a cursory look it's

2574
02:16:03,589 --> 02:16:00,599
what I I peek under the cover I look up

2575
02:16:05,930 --> 02:16:03,599
nothing to see here and end of you know

2576
02:16:08,750 --> 02:16:05,940
end of my my interest in this subject

2577
02:16:11,149 --> 02:16:08,760
sorry been there before been there too

2578
02:16:13,430 --> 02:16:11,159
often not going to wash and that's where

2579
02:16:15,709 --> 02:16:13,440
the media also has to say wait a minute

2580
02:16:18,109 --> 02:16:15,719
it's a stuck record you've been doing

2581
02:16:20,810 --> 02:16:18,119
this time and time again and this time

2582
02:16:25,490 --> 02:16:20,820
we're not going to walk away from it

2583
02:16:30,589 --> 02:16:25,500
I um I here you have NASA

2584
02:16:34,250 --> 02:16:30,599
with Satellites with Telemetry sensor

2585
02:16:37,389 --> 02:16:34,260
data uh video they've got a freaking

2586
02:16:40,549 --> 02:16:37,399
space station right orbiting the Earth

2587
02:16:44,030 --> 02:16:40,559
and and and Scott Kelly is part of this

2588
02:16:46,669 --> 02:16:44,040
team what what is he seeing but you

2589
02:16:48,410 --> 02:16:46,679
would have thought that Bill Nelson in

2590
02:16:50,690 --> 02:16:48,420
making this announcement the

2591
02:16:53,389 --> 02:16:50,700
administrator of NASA of course that

2592
02:16:55,429 --> 02:16:53,399
Bill Nelson would have said look they

2593
02:16:58,129 --> 02:16:55,439
can look at all the unclassified stuff

2594
02:16:59,929 --> 02:16:58,139
that we can provide for them uh that

2595
02:17:03,230 --> 02:16:59,939
that is out there in the public but

2596
02:17:05,810 --> 02:17:03,240
we're also going to show them what we

2597
02:17:09,530 --> 02:17:05,820
have collected over the years exactly

2598
02:17:13,070 --> 02:17:09,540
exactly and they're not that doesn't out

2599
02:17:15,169 --> 02:17:13,080
of any agency and that includes the Air

2600
02:17:16,490 --> 02:17:15,179
Force and that includes the Navy and the

2601
02:17:19,389 --> 02:17:16,500
Pentagon and the branches of the

2602
02:17:23,450 --> 02:17:19,399
military NASA

2603
02:17:27,709 --> 02:17:23,460
collects this data it's their job unless

2604
02:17:29,929 --> 02:17:27,719
we forget it's almost like who is NASA's

2605
02:17:32,810 --> 02:17:29,939
biggest commercial

2606
02:17:35,870 --> 02:17:32,820
slash government sponsor

2607
02:17:38,990 --> 02:17:35,880
the Pentagon you'll remember as far as

2608
02:17:42,469 --> 02:17:39,000
with the shuttle program how often the

2609
02:17:44,150 --> 02:17:42,479
Pentagon would contract a launch and it

2610
02:17:47,030 --> 02:17:44,160
would be top secret we wouldn't know

2611
02:17:49,790 --> 02:17:47,040
what the payload was we we never had any

2612
02:17:51,950 --> 02:17:49,800
idea what they were depositing as far as

2613
02:17:53,990 --> 02:17:51,960
to orbit around the planet their own spy

2614
02:17:56,330 --> 02:17:54,000
satellites and what have you but the

2615
02:17:58,070 --> 02:17:56,340
point being NASA is not going to bite

2616
02:18:00,290 --> 02:17:58,080
the hand that feeds them

2617
02:18:02,089 --> 02:18:00,300
so they're going to fully cooperate with

2618
02:18:05,889 --> 02:18:02,099
the Pentagon because they don't want to

2619
02:18:07,490 --> 02:18:05,899
lose their business it's that simple

2620
02:18:12,469 --> 02:18:07,500
why

2621
02:18:16,429 --> 02:18:12,479
um uh with with NASA's reputation and

2622
02:18:18,709 --> 02:18:16,439
you know the pop culture version of uh

2623
02:18:23,690 --> 02:18:18,719
their reputation that this is an

2624
02:18:25,730 --> 02:18:23,700
opportunity to to show that the rumors

2625
02:18:28,730 --> 02:18:25,740
are wrong the conspiracy theorists are

2626
02:18:32,389 --> 02:18:28,740
wrong that we are now going to look at

2627
02:18:33,950 --> 02:18:32,399
our data our our classified stuff that

2628
02:18:37,910 --> 02:18:33,960
we haven't shown to the public and we're

2629
02:18:40,070 --> 02:18:37,920
gonna we're gonna allow this team to

2630
02:18:42,230 --> 02:18:40,080
assess this information isn't this an

2631
02:18:45,349 --> 02:18:42,240
opportunity for NASA

2632
02:18:47,330 --> 02:18:45,359
it it should be but let's also remember

2633
02:18:48,770 --> 02:18:47,340
that during the Carter Administration

2634
02:18:52,490 --> 02:18:48,780
for example

2635
02:18:54,889 --> 02:18:52,500
and he was honoring a campaign promise

2636
02:18:59,389 --> 02:18:54,899
that he had made that he was going to

2637
02:19:01,250 --> 02:18:59,399
disclose UFO information provided it did

2638
02:19:05,150 --> 02:19:01,260
not threaten National Security

2639
02:19:07,669 --> 02:19:05,160
well he tossed over to NASA at that time

2640
02:19:10,070 --> 02:19:07,679
and they immediately you know just

2641
02:19:13,190 --> 02:19:10,080
brushed it up sorry we're not interested

2642
02:19:14,450 --> 02:19:13,200
well he could have made it an executive

2643
02:19:17,389 --> 02:19:14,460
order

2644
02:19:18,830 --> 02:19:17,399
maybe he failed to do that he could have

2645
02:19:20,810 --> 02:19:18,840
told them you're going to do this

2646
02:19:25,009 --> 02:19:20,820
whether you like it or not

2647
02:19:28,849 --> 02:19:25,019
so a Changing of the Guard or why is

2648
02:19:30,889 --> 02:19:28,859
NASA now cooperating with the Pentagon

2649
02:19:34,310 --> 02:19:30,899
when they wouldn't do it before

2650
02:19:38,150 --> 02:19:34,320
we have to keep asking why now Jimmy

2651
02:19:40,969 --> 02:19:38,160
it's not as though we've had some

2652
02:19:42,830 --> 02:19:40,979
another crash or we've had some Mass

2653
02:19:46,429 --> 02:19:42,840
siding that just cannot be explained

2654
02:19:49,610 --> 02:19:46,439
away or there is physical evidence

2655
02:19:51,790 --> 02:19:49,620
that's going to be released and you were

2656
02:19:55,550 --> 02:19:51,800
you made the very good point with Roy

2657
02:19:57,050 --> 02:19:55,560
earlier about it's it's being ahead of

2658
02:19:59,810 --> 02:19:57,060
the of the picture you know it's it's

2659
02:20:02,030 --> 02:19:59,820
you know and anticipating something that

2660
02:20:04,389 --> 02:20:02,040
maybe maybe forthcoming there's

2661
02:20:07,190 --> 02:20:04,399
something else going on here

2662
02:20:09,710 --> 02:20:07,200
and I don't know person I don't know if

2663
02:20:12,349 --> 02:20:09,720
it's a diversion for something else

2664
02:20:14,270 --> 02:20:12,359
that's about to go down I don't know if

2665
02:20:17,690 --> 02:20:14,280
it has something to do with uh with

2666
02:20:21,230 --> 02:20:17,700
space force but what I am still most

2667
02:20:23,389 --> 02:20:21,240
amazing this made about is the fact that

2668
02:20:27,530 --> 02:20:23,399
they have limited the search with on

2669
02:20:30,110 --> 02:20:27,540
within only the last 20 years

2670
02:20:31,250 --> 02:20:30,120
that even with the report from June of

2671
02:20:33,050 --> 02:20:31,260
last year

2672
02:20:36,830 --> 02:20:33,060
that they only acknowledge the

2673
02:20:39,110 --> 02:20:36,840
phenomenon back to 2004 as though

2674
02:20:42,830 --> 02:20:39,120
nothing has happened

2675
02:20:45,410 --> 02:20:42,840
for the for 60 years before that

2676
02:20:48,410 --> 02:20:45,420
and for those of us who you know who

2677
02:20:50,929 --> 02:20:48,420
pride ourselves on being historians of

2678
02:20:54,290 --> 02:20:50,939
the subject we realize that the best

2679
02:20:56,450 --> 02:20:54,300
cases were in the past because

2680
02:20:58,070 --> 02:20:56,460
there was very little clutter up in the

2681
02:20:59,870 --> 02:20:58,080
sky at that time

2682
02:21:01,610 --> 02:20:59,880
there weren't spy satellites there

2683
02:21:05,210 --> 02:21:01,620
weren't drones

2684
02:21:08,210 --> 02:21:05,220
I mean when people were seeing things

2685
02:21:11,770 --> 02:21:08,220
and especially back in 1947 it wasn't

2686
02:21:15,969 --> 02:21:11,780
Russian and it certainly wasn't Chinese

2687
02:21:20,510 --> 02:21:15,979
right and as a result I think that's why

2688
02:21:21,849 --> 02:21:20,520
they are focusing strictly on the last

2689
02:21:25,370 --> 02:21:21,859
20 years

2690
02:21:28,610 --> 02:21:25,380
that this remains a fallback that Russia

2691
02:21:31,370 --> 02:21:28,620
that China that United States remains a

2692
02:21:36,230 --> 02:21:31,380
total fallback in all this but if you go

2693
02:21:39,170 --> 02:21:36,240
back to 47 no way all you know all bets

2694
02:21:42,349 --> 02:21:39,180
are off because then we clearly were

2695
02:21:45,349 --> 02:21:42,359
dealing with someone else's technology

2696
02:21:48,910 --> 02:21:45,359
and it wasn't from here

2697
02:21:52,210 --> 02:21:48,920
in the report Last Summer

2698
02:21:56,150 --> 02:21:52,220
uh I was

2699
02:21:57,889 --> 02:21:56,160
I wasn't as disappointed as as as many

2700
02:22:00,110 --> 02:21:57,899
were right I wasn't either it was

2701
02:22:02,210 --> 02:22:00,120
expected I expected I was not

2702
02:22:06,110 --> 02:22:02,220
disappointed but there if you read

2703
02:22:09,770 --> 02:22:06,120
between the lines there where

2704
02:22:12,349 --> 02:22:09,780
um the report stated that we can

2705
02:22:16,010 --> 02:22:12,359
definitively say

2706
02:22:20,030 --> 02:22:16,020
it's not adversarial it's not Russia

2707
02:22:22,190 --> 02:22:20,040
it's not Chinese and it's not us

2708
02:22:23,929 --> 02:22:22,200
well wait a minute okay all right so

2709
02:22:27,170 --> 02:22:23,939
then they said you know so we've got

2710
02:22:29,630 --> 02:22:27,180
this other brother that was the word the

2711
02:22:32,090 --> 02:22:29,640
other bin and and and we're gonna put

2712
02:22:36,170 --> 02:22:32,100
we're gonna put everything in there

2713
02:22:40,070 --> 02:22:36,180
I I I I feel that they're gonna unpack

2714
02:22:43,010 --> 02:22:40,080
that and and reverse direction that that

2715
02:22:45,170 --> 02:22:43,020
that was a little bit too revealing and

2716
02:22:47,270 --> 02:22:45,180
that they're gonna start putting

2717
02:22:48,950 --> 02:22:47,280
they're going to start putting labels on

2718
02:22:53,030 --> 02:22:48,960
this that are going to be terrestrial

2719
02:22:55,190 --> 02:22:53,040
and you Jimmy you hit the nail on the

2720
02:22:58,730 --> 02:22:55,200
head exactly

2721
02:23:01,070 --> 02:22:58,740
what they did back in 1947 it's the old

2722
02:23:03,590 --> 02:23:01,080
you you build up a strong man and and

2723
02:23:05,809 --> 02:23:03,600
then you tear it down right exactly what

2724
02:23:08,750 --> 02:23:05,819
they did with Roswell I mean my God they

2725
02:23:11,090 --> 02:23:08,760
put it historically you cannot deny the

2726
02:23:14,510 --> 02:23:11,100
fact that the United States Army Air

2727
02:23:16,190 --> 02:23:14,520
corps back in July of 1947 claimed they

2728
02:23:18,230 --> 02:23:16,200
had captured a flying saucer and five

2729
02:23:20,030 --> 02:23:18,240
hours later oh it's just a weather

2730
02:23:23,450 --> 02:23:20,040
balloon device

2731
02:23:26,090 --> 02:23:23,460
we may be observing witnessing the exact

2732
02:23:28,550 --> 02:23:26,100
same thing they dangle the carrot and

2733
02:23:31,010 --> 02:23:28,560
then they reel it back and they come up

2734
02:23:33,290 --> 02:23:31,020
with uh an explanation that the public

2735
02:23:35,809 --> 02:23:33,300
breathed the sigh of relief and thank

2736
02:23:37,910 --> 02:23:35,819
God now we can get on to World War III

2737
02:23:40,429 --> 02:23:37,920
you know so to speak and we don't have

2738
02:23:43,010 --> 02:23:40,439
to worry about an Invasion From Outer

2739
02:23:45,770 --> 02:23:43,020
Space and then and then it was Crash

2740
02:23:48,170 --> 02:23:45,780
Test Dummies right and and then it was

2741
02:23:51,530 --> 02:23:48,180
you know but it was always a terrestrial

2742
02:23:53,389 --> 02:23:51,540
explanation exactly and it's no

2743
02:23:56,630 --> 02:23:53,399
different that when we had the

2744
02:24:00,290 --> 02:23:56,640
Congressional hearings in Washington and

2745
02:24:03,950 --> 02:24:00,300
I immediately said uh before the uh

2746
02:24:06,710 --> 02:24:03,960
opening Salvo that the Pentagon never

2747
02:24:10,250 --> 02:24:06,720
sends anyone up the Capitol Hill

2748
02:24:12,650 --> 02:24:10,260
who can accidentally tell the truth

2749
02:24:15,110 --> 02:24:12,660
and it's because we had experienced that

2750
02:24:18,410 --> 02:24:15,120
even working with the late Congressman

2751
02:24:21,230 --> 02:24:18,420
Stevens shift for all of his efforts to

2752
02:24:24,950 --> 02:24:21,240
try to pry any information loose

2753
02:24:26,570 --> 02:24:24,960
regarding the 1947 incident and it was

2754
02:24:29,510 --> 02:24:26,580
followed by the White House by the

2755
02:24:31,849 --> 02:24:29,520
Pentagon Secretary of Defense Les Aspen

2756
02:24:36,410 --> 02:24:31,859
wouldn't even respond to his letters of

2757
02:24:39,710 --> 02:24:36,420
inquiry because it was all a case of if

2758
02:24:42,710 --> 02:24:39,720
we don't acknowledge any semblance of

2759
02:24:44,690 --> 02:24:42,720
the truth you can't accuse us of lying

2760
02:24:47,030 --> 02:24:44,700
because we're just not going to be

2761
02:24:49,250 --> 02:24:47,040
transparent enough to admit anything and

2762
02:24:52,370 --> 02:24:49,260
we put people we essentially put out

2763
02:24:56,389 --> 02:24:52,380
government Stooges

2764
02:24:58,610 --> 02:24:56,399
and they can't slip and accidentally you

2765
02:25:03,410 --> 02:24:58,620
know say a word of Truth

2766
02:25:08,330 --> 02:25:03,420
so brave meltry Moultrie Stooges that's

2767
02:25:10,429 --> 02:25:08,340
a really really brilliant Point Don you

2768
02:25:11,510 --> 02:25:10,439
can't put somebody out there that knows

2769
02:25:14,150 --> 02:25:11,520
something

2770
02:25:16,670 --> 02:25:14,160
you can't you can't do it and the best

2771
02:25:19,190 --> 02:25:16,680
example best example was with the

2772
02:25:21,110 --> 02:25:19,200
project Vogel report when the Pentagon

2773
02:25:25,250 --> 02:25:21,120
had that press conference in September

2774
02:25:27,889 --> 02:25:25,260
of 1994 and Colonel Richard Weaver they

2775
02:25:30,290 --> 02:25:27,899
came out and they admitted we lied about

2776
02:25:32,750 --> 02:25:30,300
the Roswell incident the balloon

2777
02:25:34,910 --> 02:25:32,760
explanation but we have a new Theory

2778
02:25:36,410 --> 02:25:34,920
well who was assigned to come up with

2779
02:25:40,070 --> 02:25:36,420
that new Theory

2780
02:25:43,790 --> 02:25:40,080
at the time Captain James mcandrew who

2781
02:25:48,230 --> 02:25:43,800
was in the reserves he's not even active

2782
02:25:49,550 --> 02:25:48,240
and he's a lowly Captain a low-ranking

2783
02:25:52,550 --> 02:25:49,560
officer

2784
02:25:55,309 --> 02:25:52,560
and he researchers and he comes up with

2785
02:25:58,370 --> 02:25:55,319
this counter this third explanation of

2786
02:26:02,510 --> 02:25:58,380
Roswell he becomes an expert on Project

2787
02:26:05,990 --> 02:26:02,520
Mogul unlike anyone else but he knows

2788
02:26:10,030 --> 02:26:06,000
absolutely nothing else about the actual

2789
02:26:13,130 --> 02:26:10,040
event he can't slip he can't ever

2790
02:26:16,370 --> 02:26:13,140
admit something

2791
02:26:18,950 --> 02:26:16,380
that is anything close anything that

2792
02:26:21,650 --> 02:26:18,960
resembles the truth so it's again it's

2793
02:26:24,950 --> 02:26:21,660
standard military procedure never put

2794
02:26:27,530 --> 02:26:24,960
anyone out in front of the media who

2795
02:26:32,210 --> 02:26:27,540
knows anything about what they're going

2796
02:26:35,210 --> 02:26:32,220
to make inquiries of yeah if if he knew

2797
02:26:41,290 --> 02:26:35,220
just a little bit then he would have

2798
02:26:48,230 --> 02:26:43,490
our right dear friend

2799
02:26:49,849 --> 02:26:48,240
Colonel slash doctor Jesse Marcel Jr

2800
02:26:52,070 --> 02:26:49,859
whose father was the intelligence

2801
02:26:54,410 --> 02:26:52,080
officer of the 509 bomb Wing the first

2802
02:26:56,330 --> 02:26:54,420
atomic bomb Squadron in the world at

2803
02:26:58,490 --> 02:26:56,340
that time who had handled the wreckage

2804
02:27:01,490 --> 02:26:58,500
his his son

2805
02:27:04,610 --> 02:27:01,500
told us Jesse Jr described how Mick

2806
02:27:08,570 --> 02:27:04,620
Andrew was calling him up a half a dozen

2807
02:27:10,969 --> 02:27:08,580
times screaming at him as Jesse put it

2808
02:27:12,710 --> 02:27:10,979
what's it going to take for you to

2809
02:27:14,570 --> 02:27:12,720
believe that this was nothing more than

2810
02:27:18,590 --> 02:27:14,580
a balloon

2811
02:27:22,250 --> 02:27:18,600
because his reputation was at stake and

2812
02:27:25,670 --> 02:27:22,260
when Jesse always told him I don't care

2813
02:27:28,130 --> 02:27:25,680
what you think it was I know what it was

2814
02:27:31,429 --> 02:27:28,140
and it wasn't from here

2815
02:27:33,410 --> 02:27:31,439
big difference and uh we're going to

2816
02:27:35,870 --> 02:27:33,420
continue this discussion

2817
02:27:39,710 --> 02:27:35,880
um after the break everybody this

2818
02:27:41,990 --> 02:27:39,720
because I think this is uh will continue

2819
02:27:44,929 --> 02:27:42,000
but I think this is probably the most

2820
02:27:47,750 --> 02:27:44,939
important Point besides the press

2821
02:27:50,929 --> 02:27:47,760
release from Howe okay aside from that

2822
02:27:52,030 --> 02:27:50,939
we'll put that aside but we are talking

2823
02:27:58,330 --> 02:27:52,040
about

2824
02:28:02,510 --> 02:27:58,340
at that point in time on planet Earth

2825
02:28:06,290 --> 02:28:02,520
that was the smartest State the smartest

2826
02:28:08,510 --> 02:28:06,300
piece of land in the known universe our

2827
02:28:11,690 --> 02:28:08,520
smartest of the smart the highest

2828
02:28:13,969 --> 02:28:11,700
security clearances it didn't matter are

2829
02:28:17,090 --> 02:28:13,979
our brightest and best was in the state

2830
02:28:20,510 --> 02:28:17,100
of New Mexico and then stationed at

2831
02:28:24,230 --> 02:28:20,520
Roswell Army Airfield period nobody

2832
02:28:27,590 --> 02:28:24,240
there is going to mistake a weather

2833
02:28:29,570 --> 02:28:27,600
balloon for something else I don't care

2834
02:28:31,370 --> 02:28:29,580
what the something else is but they're

2835
02:28:34,670 --> 02:28:31,380
not going to make that mistake everybody

2836
02:28:36,889 --> 02:28:34,680
knew what was going on Don exactly first

2837
02:28:40,790 --> 02:28:36,899
time and only time in history that a

2838
02:28:45,010 --> 02:28:40,800
weather balloon was misidentified as a

2839
02:28:50,330 --> 02:28:48,170
it makes you want to who did we really

2840
02:28:52,570 --> 02:28:50,340
have station there were they really uh

2841
02:28:56,030 --> 02:28:52,580
that smart

2842
02:28:59,270 --> 02:28:56,040
so anyway Let's uh let's take our break

2843
02:29:01,309 --> 02:28:59,280
right here oh my co-host tonight is Don

2844
02:29:03,050 --> 02:29:01,319
Schmidt Don you stay right there this is

2845
02:29:06,290 --> 02:29:03,060
Fade to Black I am your host Jimmy

2846
02:29:09,290 --> 02:29:06,300
Church it is a perfect night here on the

2847
02:29:13,309 --> 02:29:09,300
show I want to thank uh Roy thinnes for

2848
02:29:16,429 --> 02:29:13,319
coming in tonight 10 days after he got

2849
02:29:18,410 --> 02:29:16,439
the green light on his cancer and he was

2850
02:29:20,870 --> 02:29:18,420
with us tonight on on Fade to Black

2851
02:29:22,550 --> 02:29:20,880
thank you so much Roy more with Don

2852
02:29:24,650 --> 02:29:22,560
Schmidt when we come back after this

2853
02:29:29,980 --> 02:29:24,660
break I remember see me church this is

2854
02:29:42,010 --> 02:29:40,710
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02:34:49,070 --> 02:34:46,910
Welcome Back Fade to Black I'm Neil

2956
02:34:51,550 --> 02:34:49,080
chimney Church going into overtime

2957
02:34:55,670 --> 02:34:51,560
with my co-host Don Schmidt

2958
02:34:58,490 --> 02:34:55,680
and uh and and and here's the deal uh

2959
02:35:03,010 --> 02:34:58,500
this is the good news uh everybody Don

2960
02:35:06,410 --> 02:35:03,020
has overnighted me a package of his new

2961
02:35:07,870 --> 02:35:06,420
uh Schmidt I know where you're going I

2962
02:35:10,849 --> 02:35:07,880
know where you're going

2963
02:35:13,309 --> 02:35:10,859
I'm gonna get some Schmidt on my head

2964
02:35:15,349 --> 02:35:13,319
and uh it's gonna be awesome I'm going

2965
02:35:17,469 --> 02:35:15,359
to uh

2966
02:35:22,570 --> 02:35:17,479
yeah

2967
02:35:28,429 --> 02:35:26,090
I was at a Sci-Fi it was a Dragon Con

2968
02:35:32,630 --> 02:35:28,439
which is uh I think the second biggest

2969
02:35:35,750 --> 02:35:32,640
that's a big one uh sci-fi yeah I mean

2970
02:35:36,889 --> 02:35:35,760
the the people I that's one one of the

2971
02:35:39,650 --> 02:35:36,899
things that

2972
02:35:41,450 --> 02:35:39,660
not only Roswell but UFOs has afforded

2973
02:35:43,969 --> 02:35:41,460
me through the years because I have met

2974
02:35:46,790 --> 02:35:43,979
so many people as far as some all

2975
02:35:49,070 --> 02:35:46,800
quarters and other countries politicians

2976
02:35:52,750 --> 02:35:49,080
entertainers actors and so on and and

2977
02:35:55,969 --> 02:35:52,760
Roy certainly at the top of all that but

2978
02:36:02,530 --> 02:35:55,979
one year at DragonCon I I learned it I

2979
02:36:10,490 --> 02:36:06,429
check this out everybody Don and I

2980
02:36:12,610 --> 02:36:10,500
uh uh we're at uh uh contact in the

2981
02:36:17,410 --> 02:36:12,620
desert and it's it's

2982
02:36:25,550 --> 02:36:21,010
everybody is sunburnt dying of thirst

2983
02:36:28,370 --> 02:36:25,560
sweating walking around uh and you know

2984
02:36:29,750 --> 02:36:28,380
with sand in their teeth and here's and

2985
02:36:35,150 --> 02:36:29,760
Don and I are sitting there and I look

2986
02:36:39,710 --> 02:36:35,160
over and Don is sitting there in a suit

2987
02:36:42,710 --> 02:36:39,720
tie hair perfect not a bead of sweat

2988
02:36:46,429 --> 02:36:42,720
nothing is affecting him and and I'm

2989
02:36:49,070 --> 02:36:46,439
looking I'm like Don how how can you do

2990
02:36:51,650 --> 02:36:49,080
this and we sat there done we sat there

2991
02:36:53,830 --> 02:36:51,660
we talked for three hours in the sun yes

2992
02:36:57,710 --> 02:36:53,840
and you never broke a sweat

2993
02:37:00,250 --> 02:36:57,720
your hair never moved

2994
02:37:02,770 --> 02:37:00,260
and it's real it's mine

2995
02:37:05,950 --> 02:37:02,780
just like yours are

2996
02:37:08,990 --> 02:37:05,960
so okay let's get back to this though

2997
02:37:10,490 --> 02:37:09,000
I need to point out Roy called

2998
02:37:13,510 --> 02:37:10,500
during the break

2999
02:37:16,309 --> 02:37:13,520
okay and he had a great time

3000
02:37:18,830 --> 02:37:16,319
you want to know how he did and he said

3001
02:37:22,370 --> 02:37:18,840
I'm still not feeling 100 I mean he's

3002
02:37:23,990 --> 02:37:22,380
come off of uh you know really

3003
02:37:26,270 --> 02:37:24,000
something that we

3004
02:37:29,090 --> 02:37:26,280
we only applaud him for the good news

3005
02:37:32,270 --> 02:37:29,100
that he's just received incredible but

3006
02:37:34,610 --> 02:37:32,280
uh he'd like to do it again so I I I

3007
02:37:37,010 --> 02:37:34,620
cannot wait and he's right down the road

3008
02:37:38,990 --> 02:37:37,020
man I'm gonna go hang out there's his

3009
02:37:41,210 --> 02:37:39,000
health is only approving as he described

3010
02:37:44,030 --> 02:37:41,220
he's gone from a wheelchair to a walker

3011
02:37:47,510 --> 02:37:44,040
and uh he's looking for I mean he's

3012
02:37:49,130 --> 02:37:47,520
gonna be right back to uh fighting for

3013
02:37:52,969 --> 02:37:49,140
him you know David Vincent all over

3014
02:37:54,889 --> 02:37:52,979
again how how crazy is it that uh half

3015
02:37:58,490 --> 02:37:54,899
of his family was in the chat room

3016
02:38:00,050 --> 02:37:58,500
tonight in Chicago and then unbelievable

3017
02:38:03,110 --> 02:38:00,060
unbelievable

3018
02:38:07,370 --> 02:38:03,120
but we've all seen that in our travels

3019
02:38:09,710 --> 02:38:07,380
you run I I was on my way back to LAX on

3020
02:38:11,929 --> 02:38:09,720
one occasion and I had time to spare so

3021
02:38:15,950 --> 02:38:11,939
I stopped at the Denny's

3022
02:38:19,730 --> 02:38:15,960
on Century Boulevard just a quick

3023
02:38:24,050 --> 02:38:19,740
sandwich and I run into three couples

3024
02:38:26,330 --> 02:38:24,060
who I know from here in my hometown that

3025
02:38:29,690 --> 02:38:26,340
were headed to Hawaii to go on a cruise

3026
02:38:32,870 --> 02:38:29,700
I mean again what are the chances but

3027
02:38:35,210 --> 02:38:32,880
that's that's how that's our lives yeah

3028
02:38:39,469 --> 02:38:35,220
yeah I know never know

3029
02:38:41,809 --> 02:38:39,479
I love how life uh works that way yes

3030
02:38:43,849 --> 02:38:41,819
um yeah here's here's the thing I want

3031
02:38:46,309 --> 02:38:43,859
to get back to the uh press release but

3032
02:38:49,070 --> 02:38:46,319
before I do uh I'm just going to share

3033
02:38:52,790 --> 02:38:49,080
this so I go to Egypt right and we've

3034
02:38:55,610 --> 02:38:52,800
got uh 70 people uh from around the

3035
02:38:58,010 --> 02:38:55,620
world that uh have come together that

3036
02:39:00,230 --> 02:38:58,020
are a part of this tour right and for

3037
02:39:02,690 --> 02:39:00,240
you tremendously it was great but but

3038
02:39:06,889 --> 02:39:02,700
check this out so I'm meeting everybody

3039
02:39:09,770 --> 02:39:06,899
and we're talking and this couple

3040
02:39:11,210 --> 02:39:09,780
um Romeo and Amy right and we're sitting

3041
02:39:13,010 --> 02:39:11,220
there talking about like so where where

3042
02:39:15,110 --> 02:39:13,020
are you guys from

3043
02:39:17,030 --> 02:39:15,120
Palmdale

3044
02:39:18,950 --> 02:39:17,040
I said what

3045
02:39:20,929 --> 02:39:18,960
Palmdale do you know where that is I

3046
02:39:23,150 --> 02:39:20,939
said that's where I live that's where

3047
02:39:27,349 --> 02:39:23,160
you live right they thought I was

3048
02:39:29,809 --> 02:39:27,359
messing with them right and and so uh I

3049
02:39:31,370 --> 02:39:29,819
I said yeah well you know and they said

3050
02:39:34,610 --> 02:39:31,380
are you real I said no I'm not from

3051
02:39:38,050 --> 02:39:34,620
Palmdale I'm just kidding oh okay no it

3052
02:39:40,250 --> 02:39:38,060
turns out they're my neighbors

3053
02:39:44,150 --> 02:39:40,260
and and

3054
02:39:47,030 --> 02:39:44,160
um it's like what what are the odds of

3055
02:39:50,510 --> 02:39:47,040
this seven billion people ain't right

3056
02:39:54,110 --> 02:39:50,520
right yeah yeah so I went uh went to uh

3057
02:39:55,790 --> 02:39:54,120
Amy's shop right a couple of days ago I

3058
02:39:58,610 --> 02:39:55,800
hope she's listening right now this is

3059
02:40:00,170 --> 02:39:58,620
great so I walk in and I you know the

3060
02:40:02,570 --> 02:40:00,180
employees and stuff I said so where's

3061
02:40:05,150 --> 02:40:02,580
Amy oh she'll be in later on tonight I

3062
02:40:06,950 --> 02:40:05,160
said oh okay

3063
02:40:08,870 --> 02:40:06,960
um they said can we help you with

3064
02:40:11,630 --> 02:40:08,880
something I said you know what

3065
02:40:13,190 --> 02:40:11,640
come here do you have your phone and uh

3066
02:40:15,710 --> 02:40:13,200
she goes I do I said okay we're gonna

3067
02:40:18,410 --> 02:40:15,720
take a selfie and then later on tonight

3068
02:40:20,230 --> 02:40:18,420
you're gonna show it to Amy and I'm just

3069
02:40:23,750 --> 02:40:20,240
gonna leave that right there

3070
02:40:26,929 --> 02:40:23,760
so we take a selfie right take the

3071
02:40:30,770 --> 02:40:26,939
selfie and so I know

3072
02:40:33,070 --> 02:40:30,780
some do stop by this store today and

3073
02:40:36,710 --> 02:40:33,080
wanted me to take this selfie all right

3074
02:40:39,469 --> 02:40:36,720
but what are the odds you know it's such

3075
02:40:42,590 --> 02:40:39,479
a small world man and you get you have

3076
02:40:45,530 --> 02:40:42,600
to still surprise her by just showing up

3077
02:40:47,030 --> 02:40:45,540
at her shop and uh well we're gonna make

3078
02:40:49,550 --> 02:40:47,040
it happen we're gonna make it happen

3079
02:40:51,530 --> 02:40:49,560
Okay so now uh I want to get back to the

3080
02:40:54,590 --> 02:40:51,540
memo and the reason why the press

3081
02:40:57,349 --> 02:40:54,600
release I should say and uh I keep

3082
02:41:00,230 --> 02:40:57,359
adjusting my glasses because my

3083
02:41:03,530 --> 02:41:00,240
headphones tilt it and then when they

3084
02:41:05,929 --> 02:41:03,540
tilt it it blocks your hair and I need

3085
02:41:07,849 --> 02:41:05,939
to be able to see your hair uh dot so

3086
02:41:12,290 --> 02:41:07,859
that's what I'm doing I'm adjusting uh

3087
02:41:14,889 --> 02:41:12,300
yeah there you go is that

3088
02:41:18,469 --> 02:41:14,899
I can't emphasize enough

3089
02:41:21,190 --> 02:41:18,479
that the brain power the Brain Trust of

3090
02:41:25,969 --> 02:41:21,200
planet Earth uh was there in New Mexico

3091
02:41:29,450 --> 02:41:25,979
and uh Los Alamos the white sand Trinity

3092
02:41:31,090 --> 02:41:29,460
site uh Trinity site uh the nuclear

3093
02:41:35,870 --> 02:41:31,100
secrets

3094
02:41:39,110 --> 02:41:35,880
all of that was New Mexico so and and

3095
02:41:42,590 --> 02:41:39,120
Central to all of that is Roswell Army

3096
02:41:44,349 --> 02:41:42,600
Airfield the 509th the nuclear bomb Wing

3097
02:41:50,330 --> 02:41:44,359
um and and everything

3098
02:41:55,190 --> 02:41:50,340
and so if you if you are going to have a

3099
02:41:59,389 --> 02:41:55,200
press release come out of the Roswell

3100
02:42:03,050 --> 02:41:59,399
Army Airfield you can bet your bottom

3101
02:42:07,250 --> 02:42:03,060
dollar that every word every period

3102
02:42:10,630 --> 02:42:07,260
every comma is poured over and approved

3103
02:42:14,630 --> 02:42:10,640
this is not an accident not an accident

3104
02:42:17,990 --> 02:42:14,640
it wasn't and I'm I'm amazed at how many

3105
02:42:21,050 --> 02:42:18,000
of my colleagues still think it was an

3106
02:42:23,870 --> 02:42:21,060
accident that they jumped the gun that

3107
02:42:28,849 --> 02:42:23,880
they overreacted they again

3108
02:42:32,330 --> 02:42:28,859
read the timeline read the books read

3109
02:42:35,990 --> 02:42:32,340
the Press accounts the point being that

3110
02:42:37,070 --> 02:42:36,000
when the wreckage first arrived in

3111
02:42:39,370 --> 02:42:37,080
Roswell

3112
02:42:41,990 --> 02:42:39,380
was Sunday afternoon

3113
02:42:45,950 --> 02:42:42,000
July 6th

3114
02:42:48,410 --> 02:42:45,960
the very base commander who was to have

3115
02:42:51,889 --> 02:42:48,420
been number two pilot

3116
02:42:54,170 --> 02:42:51,899
for the second atomic bomb over Japan on

3117
02:42:57,650 --> 02:42:54,180
boxcar that B-29

3118
02:42:59,690 --> 02:42:57,660
and the reason he was held he was pulled

3119
02:43:01,670 --> 02:42:59,700
off that flight was because they had

3120
02:43:04,130 --> 02:43:01,680
much bigger plans for Colonel William

3121
02:43:07,250 --> 02:43:04,140
Blanchard he would go on to become a

3122
02:43:09,469 --> 02:43:07,260
four-star general by the age of 50.

3123
02:43:12,710 --> 02:43:09,479
that's almost unheard of

3124
02:43:15,770 --> 02:43:12,720
and so they saved him from a highly

3125
02:43:18,349 --> 02:43:15,780
danger a highly Dangerous Mission they

3126
02:43:21,590 --> 02:43:18,359
kept him Stateside okay fine so he's the

3127
02:43:24,469 --> 02:43:21,600
base commander he calls up his boss when

3128
02:43:27,230 --> 02:43:24,479
he's alerted to this strange debris

3129
02:43:29,210 --> 02:43:27,240
field all this wreckage out 75 miles

3130
02:43:31,610 --> 02:43:29,220
Northwest of tunnel

3131
02:43:34,490 --> 02:43:31,620
his boss isn't available

3132
02:43:38,150 --> 02:43:34,500
it's his chief of staff Colonel Thomas

3133
02:43:41,150 --> 02:43:38,160
Dubose who contacts the Pentagon

3134
02:43:44,630 --> 02:43:41,160
and within an hour

3135
02:43:48,490 --> 02:43:44,640
the deputy commander of Sac of Strategic

3136
02:43:52,130 --> 02:43:48,500
Air Command General Clements McMullen

3137
02:43:54,710 --> 02:43:52,140
calls up the bows at Eighth Air Force in

3138
02:43:58,130 --> 02:43:54,720
Fort Worth and orders him to have

3139
02:44:01,910 --> 02:43:58,140
Blanchard put some of that wreckage out

3140
02:44:05,030 --> 02:44:01,920
of flight Transit through Fort Worth the

3141
02:44:07,730 --> 02:44:05,040
base commander there Colonel Al clerk to

3142
02:44:10,309 --> 02:44:07,740
bring it personally to the Pentagon in

3143
02:44:14,650 --> 02:44:10,319
Washington the point being that

3144
02:44:18,650 --> 02:44:14,660
Washington already has wreckage in Hand

3145
02:44:20,389 --> 02:44:18,660
by late Sunday evening when does the

3146
02:44:25,849 --> 02:44:20,399
press release go out

3147
02:44:27,590 --> 02:44:25,859
at noon on July 8th two days later two

3148
02:44:29,450 --> 02:44:27,600
days later where's the knee-jerk

3149
02:44:31,670 --> 02:44:29,460
reaction where's the overreaction here

3150
02:44:34,250 --> 02:44:31,680
when Washington already is involved

3151
02:44:35,990 --> 02:44:34,260
they're already calling the shots end of

3152
02:44:38,090 --> 02:44:36,000
argument end of debate

3153
02:44:40,670 --> 02:44:38,100
and you are absolutely correct Jimmy

3154
02:44:43,370 --> 02:44:40,680
every word in that press release they

3155
02:44:44,990 --> 02:44:43,380
don't say the name of the Rancher they

3156
02:44:48,349 --> 02:44:45,000
don't see they don't mention the

3157
02:44:51,070 --> 02:44:48,359
location and the only person that is

3158
02:44:53,510 --> 02:44:51,080
even named in the press release

3159
02:44:55,969 --> 02:44:53,520
is Major

3160
02:44:58,910 --> 02:44:55,979
Jesse Marcel

3161
02:45:01,010 --> 02:44:58,920
and he's conveniently on his way to

3162
02:45:04,309 --> 02:45:01,020
higher headquarters as it states well

3163
02:45:07,070 --> 02:45:04,319
he's going to the press conference

3164
02:45:09,110 --> 02:45:07,080
arranged by Colonel Blanchard's boss

3165
02:45:11,030 --> 02:45:09,120
General Roger Ramey head of the Eighth

3166
02:45:13,670 --> 02:45:11,040
Air Force where they substitute the

3167
02:45:16,550 --> 02:45:13,680
weather balloon and Marcel is ordered to

3168
02:45:17,990 --> 02:45:16,560
pose with the substituted balloon

3169
02:45:20,030 --> 02:45:18,000
wreckage

3170
02:45:22,969 --> 02:45:20,040
and it works

3171
02:45:25,090 --> 02:45:22,979
the old switcheroo they admitted the

3172
02:45:28,790 --> 02:45:25,100
truth but then

3173
02:45:31,550 --> 02:45:28,800
they slowly tear it down the evolution

3174
02:45:33,290 --> 02:45:31,560
as the press release went out and the

3175
02:45:35,570 --> 02:45:33,300
timeline the bulletins that were going

3176
02:45:39,469 --> 02:45:35,580
out between Washington

3177
02:45:42,889 --> 02:45:39,479
and the an Associated Press and Reuters

3178
02:45:46,010 --> 02:45:42,899
you see the slow Evolution from the

3179
02:45:48,190 --> 02:45:46,020
flying saucer into the weather balloon

3180
02:45:52,309 --> 02:45:48,200
so in five hours

3181
02:45:54,170 --> 02:45:52,319
it's accepted as nothing more than a

3182
02:45:55,309 --> 02:45:54,180
weather balloon device something a

3183
02:45:58,010 --> 02:45:55,319
five-year-old child would have

3184
02:46:00,110 --> 02:45:58,020
recognized but were still asked to this

3185
02:46:01,790 --> 02:46:00,120
state to believe that the people who

3186
02:46:04,550 --> 02:46:01,800
were in charge of the atomic bomb

3187
02:46:06,550 --> 02:46:04,560
couldn't recognize reflect the foil

3188
02:46:11,450 --> 02:46:06,560
wooden sticks

3189
02:46:13,550 --> 02:46:11,460
string neoprene Rubber and masking tape

3190
02:46:16,790 --> 02:46:13,560
every reporter

3191
02:46:18,070 --> 02:46:16,800
in the country was on their way to New

3192
02:46:22,790 --> 02:46:18,080
Mexico

3193
02:46:24,370 --> 02:46:22,800
and we were perhaps

3194
02:46:28,670 --> 02:46:24,380
hours away

3195
02:46:31,969 --> 02:46:28,680
from this becoming the absolute biggest

3196
02:46:35,150 --> 02:46:31,979
story in the history of mankind and or

3197
02:46:40,130 --> 02:46:35,160
at least a millennium at least right and

3198
02:46:41,750 --> 02:46:40,140
then when the about face was announced I

3199
02:46:45,590 --> 02:46:41,760
was just a weather balloon

3200
02:46:47,870 --> 02:46:45,600
the the flood of report never arrived in

3201
02:46:51,590 --> 02:46:47,880
New Mexico never followed up on anything

3202
02:46:55,429 --> 02:46:51,600
they turned around and went home and and

3203
02:46:59,510 --> 02:46:55,439
followed uh the the instructor nothing

3204
02:47:03,590 --> 02:46:59,520
to see here right and the story was

3205
02:47:06,170 --> 02:47:03,600
effectively squashed how close were we

3206
02:47:09,530 --> 02:47:06,180
we were just a few hours away weren't we

3207
02:47:14,830 --> 02:47:09,540
we were we were and the fact that the

3208
02:47:20,630 --> 02:47:17,450
medicated the eye as far as uh

3209
02:47:22,370 --> 02:47:20,640
necessitate the uh the reason for the

3210
02:47:24,830 --> 02:47:22,380
press release was because the Press

3211
02:47:27,650 --> 02:47:24,840
already had been tipped off that when

3212
02:47:30,830 --> 02:47:27,660
the Rapture came in the town he spoke to

3213
02:47:32,389 --> 02:47:30,840
a reporter by Lima Frank Joyce at kgfl

3214
02:47:35,929 --> 02:47:32,399
radio station

3215
02:47:38,090 --> 02:47:35,939
and told him about the wreckage told him

3216
02:47:40,550 --> 02:47:38,100
it wasn't from here and also told him

3217
02:47:42,969 --> 02:47:40,560
about bodies

3218
02:47:46,610 --> 02:47:42,979
so it was ready

3219
02:47:48,950 --> 02:47:46,620
to become as you describe it you know

3220
02:47:51,410 --> 02:47:48,960
one of the biggest stories of all time

3221
02:47:53,510 --> 02:47:51,420
and the fact that they had to shut down

3222
02:47:54,590 --> 02:47:53,520
the media the fact that they had to

3223
02:47:58,550 --> 02:47:54,600
deprive

3224
02:48:00,710 --> 02:47:58,560
the Roswell and New Mexican media

3225
02:48:03,290 --> 02:48:00,720
deprived them of the First Amendment

3226
02:48:05,210 --> 02:48:03,300
freedom of speech rights they had to be

3227
02:48:09,250 --> 02:48:05,220
they were threatened with loss of their

3228
02:48:12,889 --> 02:48:09,260
licenses by the FCC the FBI intercepted

3229
02:48:15,290 --> 02:48:12,899
teletype messages that were that tried

3230
02:48:17,929 --> 02:48:15,300
to come out of New Mexico everything

3231
02:48:22,250 --> 02:48:17,939
they did impeded

3232
02:48:26,030 --> 02:48:22,260
as far as the story coming out getting

3233
02:48:29,929 --> 02:48:26,040
out beyond the state lines and it worked

3234
02:48:33,349 --> 02:48:29,939
but it it's only because they had time

3235
02:48:36,590 --> 02:48:33,359
to put the cover story together

3236
02:48:39,349 --> 02:48:36,600
to then anticipate what the Press what

3237
02:48:42,230 --> 02:48:39,359
the witnesses would do and be there to

3238
02:48:44,030 --> 02:48:42,240
immediately squelch it and it worked and

3239
02:48:45,770 --> 02:48:44,040
I think the main reason it worked Jimmy

3240
02:48:48,530 --> 02:48:45,780
was the fact that this is just post

3241
02:48:50,870 --> 02:48:48,540
World War II and the military walked on

3242
02:48:53,690 --> 02:48:50,880
water at that time

3243
02:48:56,809 --> 02:48:53,700
they were all International Heroes

3244
02:48:58,910 --> 02:48:56,819
and whatever the military they they were

3245
02:49:00,830 --> 02:48:58,920
afforded that much latitude that they

3246
02:49:03,950 --> 02:49:00,840
could make such an outlandish mistake

3247
02:49:07,190 --> 02:49:03,960
that a flying saucer

3248
02:49:08,750 --> 02:49:07,200
could easily be come nothing more than a

3249
02:49:11,870 --> 02:49:08,760
weather balloon with a radar reflector

3250
02:49:15,110 --> 02:49:11,880
kite and the people accepted it but

3251
02:49:18,050 --> 02:49:15,120
sadly the Press also did and that's

3252
02:49:21,230 --> 02:49:18,060
where and it it worked it would have

3253
02:49:24,050 --> 02:49:21,240
truly escalated into something beyond

3254
02:49:26,270 --> 02:49:24,060
the government's control and and here's

3255
02:49:31,010 --> 02:49:26,280
the thing we had we had Roy thinnes on

3256
02:49:34,370 --> 02:49:31,020
the show tonight and the uh the series

3257
02:49:37,370 --> 02:49:34,380
The Invaders released to 1967 20 years

3258
02:49:38,750 --> 02:49:37,380
after Roswell correct when that series

3259
02:49:41,469 --> 02:49:38,760
was made

3260
02:49:44,870 --> 02:49:41,479
nobody heard of Roswell

3261
02:49:48,889 --> 02:49:44,880
Kenneth Arnold who was on every radio

3262
02:49:53,210 --> 02:49:48,899
show every TV show from his sighting in

3263
02:49:56,270 --> 02:49:53,220
in 1947 all the way up to to his death

3264
02:49:59,690 --> 02:49:56,280
he never mentioned Roswell no he never

3265
02:50:00,849 --> 02:49:59,700
mentioned Roswell one time

3266
02:50:12,349 --> 02:50:00,859
that

3267
02:50:15,410 --> 02:50:12,359
would have said a million times over I

3268
02:50:17,389 --> 02:50:15,420
had my sighting right I saw those nine

3269
02:50:21,290 --> 02:50:17,399
objects and then right after that

3270
02:50:23,389 --> 02:50:21,300
Roswell and the decided there there's

3271
02:50:24,290 --> 02:50:23,399
something going on here no that never

3272
02:50:29,870 --> 02:50:24,300
happened

3273
02:50:32,990 --> 02:50:29,880
it was so effectively neutralized it was

3274
02:50:35,090 --> 02:50:33,000
explained away it was accepted by the

3275
02:50:36,950 --> 02:50:35,100
media and it was never touched again and

3276
02:50:39,889 --> 02:50:36,960
one of the reasons or the I would

3277
02:50:43,130 --> 02:50:39,899
suggest the primary reason that it

3278
02:50:46,610 --> 02:50:43,140
became off limits that it was a taboo

3279
02:50:48,349 --> 02:50:46,620
subject uh General Roger Ramey for

3280
02:50:50,990 --> 02:50:48,359
example his chief of staff Colonel

3281
02:50:53,870 --> 02:50:51,000
Dubose who was involved up to his

3282
02:50:57,170 --> 02:50:53,880
eyeballs even in his sworn affidavit

3283
02:50:59,929 --> 02:50:57,180
where he stated the balloon was a hoax

3284
02:51:02,450 --> 02:50:59,939
and they were the ones who had switched

3285
02:51:05,150 --> 02:51:02,460
they had substituted the balloon before

3286
02:51:06,290 --> 02:51:05,160
the Press was allowed in for the action

3287
02:51:11,210 --> 02:51:06,300
material

3288
02:51:14,570 --> 02:51:11,220
the point being Remy told Dubose I don't

3289
02:51:16,849 --> 02:51:14,580
want you ever bringing this up again

3290
02:51:19,670 --> 02:51:16,859
that was the same tactic that was used

3291
02:51:22,429 --> 02:51:19,680
at Roswell when they debriefed all the

3292
02:51:25,490 --> 02:51:22,439
Personnel who were involved in the

3293
02:51:27,230 --> 02:51:25,500
cleanup in the recovery operation each

3294
02:51:29,330 --> 02:51:27,240
and every one of them was sworn to

3295
02:51:31,849 --> 02:51:29,340
secrecy and each and every one of them

3296
02:51:35,929 --> 02:51:31,859
was told and you will not discuss this

3297
02:51:39,469 --> 02:51:35,939
with anyone outside of this face nor on

3298
02:51:41,690 --> 02:51:39,479
this space it never happened

3299
02:51:42,969 --> 02:51:41,700
and again that's how the military

3300
02:51:46,849 --> 02:51:42,979
functions

3301
02:51:50,510 --> 02:51:46,859
the the 1952 uh press conference

3302
02:51:52,849 --> 02:51:50,520
right the UFO flap yes yes after the

3303
02:51:55,849 --> 02:51:52,859
Washington over flights correct no

3304
02:51:58,610 --> 02:51:55,859
mention of Roswell then Daniel as far as

3305
02:52:01,550 --> 02:51:58,620
John Sanford yes no mention and no

3306
02:52:03,530 --> 02:52:01,560
mention of the of us being in possession

3307
02:52:08,690 --> 02:52:03,540
of any physical evidence

3308
02:52:11,889 --> 02:52:08,700
but we both remember the letter

3309
02:52:15,650 --> 02:52:11,899
to General George sjogren that General

3310
02:52:17,150 --> 02:52:15,660
Nathan Twining the head of air material

3311
02:52:21,230 --> 02:52:17,160
command

3312
02:52:23,870 --> 02:52:21,240
in September of 1947 where it was stated

3313
02:52:26,570 --> 02:52:23,880
that the phenomenon was real and not

3314
02:52:28,490 --> 02:52:26,580
Visionary or fictitious and it went on

3315
02:52:31,250 --> 02:52:28,500
to describe the flight characteristics

3316
02:52:34,429 --> 02:52:31,260
and the shapes and the size of this

3317
02:52:36,910 --> 02:52:34,439
newly arrived phenomenon who prepared

3318
02:52:41,750 --> 02:52:36,920
that statement

3319
02:52:44,690 --> 02:52:41,760
Engineers propulsion engine as far as

3320
02:52:46,510 --> 02:52:44,700
experts people who were Nuts and Bolts

3321
02:52:49,130 --> 02:52:46,520
hardware

3322
02:52:50,990 --> 02:52:49,140
individuals they are the ones prepared

3323
02:52:53,330 --> 02:52:51,000
that as though they were the go-to

3324
02:52:55,550 --> 02:52:53,340
people regarding what was going on in

3325
02:52:58,370 --> 02:52:55,560
the skies at that time it wasn't just

3326
02:53:01,309 --> 02:52:58,380
general Twining

3327
02:53:03,230 --> 02:53:01,319
making some educated guess as to what

3328
02:53:05,210 --> 02:53:03,240
was happening no the very people who

3329
02:53:07,070 --> 02:53:05,220
made that pronouncement would have been

3330
02:53:09,769 --> 02:53:07,080
the exact people who would have been

3331
02:53:12,050 --> 02:53:09,779
involved with recovered Hardware from an

3332
02:53:15,830 --> 02:53:12,060
actual UFO crash

3333
02:53:18,730 --> 02:53:15,840
do you remember uh this this to me is

3334
02:53:24,410 --> 02:53:18,740
remarkable you know the the

3335
02:53:27,110 --> 02:53:24,420
1955-56 uh documentary uh UFO which and

3336
02:53:30,290 --> 02:53:27,120
and that documentary which they had uh

3337
02:53:31,849 --> 02:53:30,300
footage uh real UFO you know and they

3338
02:53:33,590 --> 02:53:31,859
you know it was a part of the trailer

3339
02:53:37,190 --> 02:53:33,600
and then you had to watch the movie at

3340
02:53:40,670 --> 02:53:37,200
the end of the movies all the 1952 press

3341
02:53:44,210 --> 02:53:40,680
conference it is is featured in there uh

3342
02:53:46,809 --> 02:53:44,220
they did a reenactment of uh the fly the

3343
02:53:51,290 --> 02:53:46,819
UFO flap over uh the capital

3344
02:53:55,370 --> 02:53:51,300
they did recreated the allegedly from

3345
02:53:57,530 --> 02:53:55,380
actual uh uh uh transcription of the

3346
02:53:59,210 --> 02:53:57,540
conversation from the radar operators

3347
02:54:02,030 --> 02:53:59,220
right this was the definitive

3348
02:54:04,190 --> 02:54:02,040
documentary on UFOs had every case

3349
02:54:05,510 --> 02:54:04,200
talked about Kenneth Arnold everything

3350
02:54:07,690 --> 02:54:05,520
is in there

3351
02:54:12,410 --> 02:54:07,700
except Roswell

3352
02:54:14,750 --> 02:54:12,420
in fact at the National Archives with uh

3353
02:54:18,830 --> 02:54:14,760
the Declassified Project Blue Book files

3354
02:54:22,309 --> 02:54:18,840
there's one lone newspaper clipping

3355
02:54:25,070 --> 02:54:22,319
referencing what at the time

3356
02:54:26,929 --> 02:54:25,080
was one of the biggest announcements in

3357
02:54:29,929 --> 02:54:26,939
the history of the world

3358
02:54:32,750 --> 02:54:29,939
and the fact that it's reduced down to a

3359
02:54:35,330 --> 02:54:32,760
mere clipping yes

3360
02:54:39,170 --> 02:54:35,340
and I would I would then use the example

3361
02:54:44,870 --> 02:54:42,170
how many people were talking about it

3362
02:54:48,950 --> 02:54:44,880
for decades thereafter I mean we had

3363
02:54:51,530 --> 02:54:48,960
well the answer is zero zero is zero and

3364
02:54:54,170 --> 02:54:51,540
yet we had

3365
02:54:56,450 --> 02:54:54,180
two cities totally destroyed

3366
02:54:58,550 --> 02:54:56,460
she had hoped by the actual effect of

3367
02:55:02,330 --> 02:54:58,560
the bombs but yet they still couldn't

3368
02:55:06,170 --> 02:55:02,340
talk about it no 250 000 people employed

3369
02:55:09,309 --> 02:55:06,180
in in the Manhattan Project 250 000. and

3370
02:55:13,790 --> 02:55:09,319
even their sponsors had no idea

3371
02:55:15,710 --> 02:55:13,800
so Secrets can be kept I'm sorry I keep

3372
02:55:18,110 --> 02:55:15,720
hearing that oh no no everything leaks

3373
02:55:20,269 --> 02:55:18,120
out well then let's take it a step

3374
02:55:22,490 --> 02:55:20,279
further it's been leaking out for 75

3375
02:55:25,190 --> 02:55:22,500
years the problem is people aren't

3376
02:55:27,830 --> 02:55:25,200
listening the Press still you know oh

3377
02:55:29,570 --> 02:55:27,840
that's some of that UFO uh buffoonery

3378
02:55:32,210 --> 02:55:29,580
that type of thing and and you're

3379
02:55:34,490 --> 02:55:32,220
talking about a crashed UFO oh that's

3380
02:55:37,490 --> 02:55:34,500
even more ridiculous

3381
02:55:41,389 --> 02:55:37,500
yeah I totally agree

3382
02:55:45,110 --> 02:55:41,399
um I think it's in two weeks uh three

3383
02:55:49,250 --> 02:55:45,120
weeks uh uh around December 1st oh today

3384
02:55:53,389 --> 02:55:49,260
is November 1st is going to be the

3385
02:55:56,630 --> 02:55:53,399
reveal of uh the new uh B-21 bomber

3386
02:55:59,210 --> 02:55:56,640
right right down the street from my home

3387
02:56:04,429 --> 02:55:59,220
Boeing the Boeing plan right right uh uh

3388
02:56:09,110 --> 02:56:05,090
um

3389
02:56:11,450 --> 02:56:09,120
have you seen a leaked photo of it nope

3390
02:56:15,110 --> 02:56:11,460
of course anybody talking about it

3391
02:56:17,330 --> 02:56:15,120
no if you speak to anyone in the know

3392
02:56:20,090 --> 02:56:17,340
they will tell you that typically at the

3393
02:56:25,010 --> 02:56:20,100
time that something is actually unveiled

3394
02:56:26,929 --> 02:56:25,020
it's been out for most likely 20 years

3395
02:56:30,349 --> 02:56:26,939
I mean the best example would be the

3396
02:56:32,090 --> 02:56:30,359
flying Blackbird the SR-71 mm-hmm

3397
02:56:34,370 --> 02:56:32,100
you know it was conceived and developed

3398
02:56:36,950 --> 02:56:34,380
over in the late 50s

3399
02:56:40,490 --> 02:56:36,960
and you know I became our you know our

3400
02:56:42,769 --> 02:56:40,500
our super spy plane and even when it was

3401
02:56:45,410 --> 02:56:42,779
supposedly put out

3402
02:56:47,990 --> 02:56:45,420
so you know of the pasture

3403
02:56:52,550 --> 02:56:48,000
they still wouldn't release any data as

3404
02:56:54,530 --> 02:56:52,560
to its as far as uh its uh actual flight

3405
02:56:56,690 --> 02:56:54,540
characteristics and its flight details

3406
02:57:01,370 --> 02:56:56,700
and it's it's supersonic speed or

3407
02:57:06,769 --> 02:57:03,590
they built it in Burbank Burbank man

3408
02:57:15,530 --> 02:57:11,030
they did nothing right so again Secrets

3409
02:57:17,570 --> 02:57:15,540
can be kept we have too many examples

3410
02:57:20,210 --> 02:57:17,580
and so

3411
02:57:22,910 --> 02:57:20,220
the biggest obstacle that my colleagues

3412
02:57:25,190 --> 02:57:22,920
my partner Tom Kerry before that Kevin

3413
02:57:27,349 --> 02:57:25,200
Randall and our good dear friend the

3414
02:57:29,870 --> 02:57:27,359
late Stanton Friedman the biggest

3415
02:57:31,849 --> 02:57:29,880
problem that we have all had is that we

3416
02:57:33,650 --> 02:57:31,859
can't produce a piece of physical

3417
02:57:34,910 --> 02:57:33,660
evidence

3418
02:57:37,309 --> 02:57:34,920
but

3419
02:57:39,469 --> 02:57:37,319
there have been convictions

3420
02:57:42,650 --> 02:57:39,479
as far as involving capital punishment

3421
02:57:45,349 --> 02:57:42,660
where bodies have not been recovered

3422
02:57:48,170 --> 02:57:45,359
there have been many historic events

3423
02:57:51,590 --> 02:57:48,180
where one could not produce a relic an

3424
02:57:53,570 --> 02:57:51,600
artifact but yet it's documented

3425
02:57:54,490 --> 02:57:53,580
that because that's what history is made

3426
02:57:57,530 --> 02:57:54,500
up of

3427
02:58:00,590 --> 02:57:57,540
eyewitnesses eyewitness testimony

3428
02:58:02,570 --> 02:58:00,600
and if we want to throw out Roswell we

3429
02:58:07,370 --> 02:58:02,580
have to throw out all historic accounts

3430
02:58:10,849 --> 02:58:07,380
we have to then say that no historic uh

3431
02:58:13,429 --> 02:58:10,859
testimonies are are accurate are

3432
02:58:17,389 --> 02:58:13,439
reliable and then if we're talking about

3433
02:58:22,130 --> 02:58:17,399
death testimonies for which with Roswell

3434
02:58:26,170 --> 02:58:22,140
we have over two dozen down to a man and

3435
02:58:29,150 --> 02:58:26,180
woman they all describe the unearthly

3436
02:58:32,030 --> 02:58:29,160
characteristics of the wreckage the

3437
02:58:33,769 --> 02:58:32,040
non-human bodies no one on their

3438
02:58:36,349 --> 02:58:33,779
deathbed and I can say this to your

3439
02:58:38,690 --> 02:58:36,359
audience Jimmy not a single person under

3440
02:58:41,269 --> 02:58:38,700
death bed has claimed this was a weather

3441
02:58:43,250 --> 02:58:41,279
balloon or anything else conventional

3442
02:58:45,710 --> 02:58:43,260
and as we both know

3443
02:58:47,809 --> 02:58:45,720
Death Beds Are admissible they're

3444
02:58:51,650 --> 02:58:47,819
accepted as physical evidence in a court

3445
02:58:53,929 --> 02:58:51,660
of law for a reason because there again

3446
02:58:57,170 --> 02:58:53,939
history has demonstrated that people

3447
02:59:00,410 --> 02:58:57,180
just do not do not lie on their

3448
02:59:02,870 --> 02:59:00,420
deathbeds it isn't honey let me tell you

3449
02:59:06,410 --> 02:59:02,880
one last Whopper yet before I go no

3450
02:59:08,990 --> 02:59:06,420
right right yeah yeah yeah exactly well

3451
02:59:11,469 --> 02:59:09,000
but but uh we're at the end of the show

3452
02:59:16,490 --> 02:59:11,479
but I just want to emphasize your point

3453
02:59:17,630 --> 02:59:16,500
there are uh a high countless people on

3454
02:59:20,150 --> 02:59:17,640
death row

3455
02:59:23,630 --> 02:59:20,160
right now because of eyewitness

3456
02:59:25,790 --> 02:59:23,640
testimony yes yes it's so it's good

3457
02:59:28,849 --> 02:59:25,800
enough right to give somebody the death

3458
02:59:30,830 --> 02:59:28,859
penalty right but we're going to dismiss

3459
02:59:33,170 --> 02:59:30,840
the UFO subject when it comes to

3460
02:59:35,330 --> 02:59:33,180
eyewitnesses no they have it both ways

3461
02:59:37,610 --> 02:59:35,340
you can't have them both ways both ways

3462
02:59:40,670 --> 02:59:37,620
double standard we will not uh we will

3463
02:59:42,530 --> 02:59:40,680
not accept that no no Don Schmidt thank

3464
02:59:45,769 --> 02:59:42,540
you for everything man and and and and

3465
02:59:48,110 --> 02:59:45,779
thank you tonight for for introducing me

3466
02:59:50,870 --> 02:59:48,120
to uh Roy thinnes it was just an

3467
02:59:53,929 --> 02:59:50,880
incredible you get to meet I'm happy to

3468
02:59:56,570 --> 02:59:53,939
hear that your neighbors and um

3469
03:00:00,050 --> 02:59:56,580
it'd be it'd be nice to have him back on

3470
03:00:03,769 --> 03:00:00,060
and maybe at some point uh right in the

3471
03:00:07,309 --> 03:00:03,779
studio so he he said uh next time Jimmy

3472
03:00:09,830 --> 03:00:07,319
we're gonna do this TV style so yeah

3473
03:00:11,690 --> 03:00:09,840
yeah we're gonna do this on camera Don

3474
03:00:15,250 --> 03:00:11,700
thank you so much my friend behave and

3475
03:00:19,550 --> 03:00:15,260
be well okay same to you Jimmy take care

3476
03:00:22,010 --> 03:00:19,560
of that do as well thank you

3477
03:00:23,750 --> 03:00:22,020
Don Schmidt thank you so much Don the

3478
03:00:26,330 --> 03:00:23,760
absolute very best I've got to get

3479
03:00:29,090 --> 03:00:26,340
straight to the credits uh before I am

3480
03:00:32,450 --> 03:00:29,100
kicked off the network uh what a great

3481
03:00:35,389 --> 03:00:32,460
show tonight thank you everybody again a

3482
03:00:38,570 --> 03:00:35,399
very special night for me personally and

3483
03:00:41,809 --> 03:00:38,580
I want to certainly thank Dodge Smith

3484
03:00:43,910 --> 03:00:41,819
for putting all of this together

3485
03:00:46,790 --> 03:00:43,920
perfect night on the show

3486
03:00:48,950 --> 03:00:46,800
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3487
03:00:50,690 --> 03:00:48,960
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3488
03:00:52,730 --> 03:00:50,700
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3489
03:00:55,150 --> 03:00:52,740
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3490
03:00:57,110 --> 03:00:55,160
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3491
03:00:59,090 --> 03:00:57,120
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3492
03:00:59,870 --> 03:00:59,100
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3493
03:01:02,210 --> 03:00:59,880
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3494
03:01:03,830 --> 03:01:02,220
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3495
03:01:05,929 --> 03:01:03,840
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3496
03:01:07,610 --> 03:01:05,939
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3497
03:01:09,349 --> 03:01:07,620
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3498
03:01:10,849 --> 03:01:09,359
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3499
03:01:12,170 --> 03:01:10,859
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3500
03:01:14,090 --> 03:01:12,180
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3501
03:01:16,670 --> 03:01:14,100
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3502
03:01:19,250 --> 03:01:16,680
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3503
03:01:21,950 --> 03:01:19,260
about grounding until tomorrow night I

3504
03:01:36,830 --> 03:01:21,960
want everybody to be safe

3505
03:02:01,070 --> 03:01:49,940
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